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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester 1873 questions</title>
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<strong><a href="mailto:jim@wjharrison.com" target="_blank">jim@wjharrison.com</a> said </strong><br />
Gents:<br />
Went to post some pics of my Winchester 1873 as requested. I discovered through other complaints on the site that posting photos is not allowed except by paying members. I have never encountered that restriction on other sites. <br />
Now I understand the requests of multiple members i have received to email photos to them directly.<br />
I hope this rule serves the community well. For now, I think I will head a different direction to discover more about this cool rifle.<br />
Best, <br />
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<p>It does indeed serve the WACA community <em><strong>very</strong></em> well, as it prevents the Chinese, Russian, North Korean, and every other rogue country or entity from inundating our privately owned and operated website with Spam, Porn, and every other type of unwanted material.  WACA is not like a large company/corporation that employs a team of cyber experts to prevent illicit internet activity.  Acordingly, we (I) control what can and cannot be posted on our website through a rigorous registration system and built in User access safeguards.</p>
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                    <title>1873man on Winchester 1873 questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>You can post pictures but you have to post them to a 3rd party host site and then put the link in your post otherwise like I offered before email to me at the below address and I can post them for you. I think they do it as an incentive to be a paid member. I help people that email me from all over the world to answer questions about their 73. I do this since it helps me with the research I’m doing on the 73.</p>
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                    <title>jim@wjharrison.com on Winchester 1873 questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Gents:</p>
<p>Went to post some pics of my Winchester 1873 as requested. I discovered through other complaints on the site that posting photos is not allowed except by paying members. I have never encountered that restriction on other sites. </p>
<p>Now I understand the requests of multiple members i have received to email photos to them directly.</p>
<p>I hope this rule serves the community well. For now, I think I will head a different direction to discover more about this cool rifle.</p>
<p>Best, </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2026 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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<p>The reason the upload was so slow was because your file size is large.  Either split them into 2 sets or stay around 2 mb per picture.  I'm surprised that 16 mb loaded at all. <br />
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<p>It shows that the images are in the 2 to 6 MB per each.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2026 16:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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It would help if you posted pictures of the markings in question.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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It would help if you posted pictures of the markings in question.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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<p>Uploaded the same 5 photos again but the upload stopped for ages at 75%.  Hopefully this works...<br />
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<p>The reason the upload was so slow was because your file size is large.  Either split them into 2 sets or stay around 2 mb per picture.  I'm surprised that 16 mb loaded at all. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2026 16:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dermot,</p>
<p>I am working on a research survey of the Model 1892 and would love to add yours into my work.  Can I please get the serial number and some additional images of it.  My email is <a href="mailto:2bitrifles@gmail.com" target="_blank">2bitrifles@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2026 14:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Winchester 1873 questions</title>
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<p><strong><a href="mailto:jim@wjharrison.com" target="_blank">jim@wjharrison.com</a> said </strong><br />
Morning,<br />
I was recently given a very nice 1873 in .38-40. Octagonal barrel, original wood in good shape retaining most of original finish, bluing 90%+ intact, no damage or rusting. Bore is shiny with strong rifling. Best I have seen. Evidently shot very little. serial 477***B.<br />
If I decide to sell, what would be best online places to do so?<br />
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Any instructive thoughts on value?<br />
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Thanks, <br />
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<p>I'm in agreement with, the members, on your M-1873, mfg in 1894, and the "B", letter designation, hasn't been discovered yet as to what it means on the model 1873, as on later model Winchesters it usually indicates an internal mechanism change in manufacturing. Previously the, "A", was significant, and before that, there was just the serial number.</p>
<p>If it's in the condition that you say it's in, members here would definitely be interested after you email pictures to the 1873man, and Bob can post them as he's asked you to.</p>
<p>We can help you and try to evaluate it with some very good natural light pictures. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dermot,</p>
<p>Bob, (1873man), is our resident expert on the model 1873, and has much knowledge on these as his ongoing survey, picked up and continued from his good friend, Author/researcher, James Gordon, (Winchester Books Vol l $ ll ), and will be along to help out with anything we miss, as I'm thinking he might be at the current Tulsa show, along with a few other members, but his evening might find him checking in here and adding to this, or make some corrections.He can also check to see if it's in his survey and if it is the same configuration, as it looks to be all correct, as it left the factory. Bob's knowledge and information is second to none. IMO!</p>
<p>I'll try to add what he's taught me, on another thread for one of mine. Good job on the pictures, as it takes a bit for some of us but you did a nice job of showing us what is needed. Always the more, you add, the better it is for us. </p>
<p>You're third model 1873, mfg. in 1892, in 38-40, as you stated, with half magazine, looks all original. As you know the 38-40, caliber is the .38 WCF, and probably stamped so.</p>
<p>In Gordon's book he explains and talks about the barrel under stamps as it's pretty well broken down, but with the different inspectors back in the day and varying marks, sometimes we can try to over diagnose or expect more explanation, as these inspectors marks or stamps can vary. </p>
<p>Here's what Bob had said about my third model 73 src, that I had asked about, as his explanation is very good and it helped me out. IMO!</p>
<p>Bob, (1873man), <strong>Said,</strong></p>
<p>Tony,</p>
<p>Those are Inspection or tests the barrel went through. The first 73’s had “CCC” then it went to”+++” for a short time at the end of the first models and then it was “123” for the rest of production. You will find barrels without them.</p>
<p>My 73 src, had the standard, "123', as Bob explained and is in Gordon's book. Your 1873 rifle,  has the "punch dot", in front of the "2", instead of the, "1", in, "123" ! </p>
<p>Bob</p>
<p>So getting back to you're 73 rifle, in Gordon's book, he explains each barrel was subject to a three part test, as the first mark, the punch dot, is a test, as is the, "2", as is the, "3".  Not sure what the "A.E", is, but I assume it's an inspectors mark, as maybe his initials of his name, identifying him,(as some inspectors did), as I don't see anything like that, in Gordon's book, (but there is other initial letters in his book, just not yours). Maybe Bob can help identify those letters, and add more, or correct me. The upside down "VP", in the circle is another barrel test, meaning violent proof, on the strength of the barrel. The "p", on the front of the receiver is another test proof stamp, but for the receiver.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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                    <title>Dermot on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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It would help if you posted pictures of the markings in question.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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It would help if you posted pictures of the markings in question.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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<p>Uploaded the same 5 photos again but the upload stopped for ages at 75%.  Hopefully this works...<br />
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<p>I have:</p>
<p>1873 built 1892, 38-40</p>
<p>1886 built 1887, 40-65, with a Cody letter</p>
<p>1892 built 1900, 44-40</p>
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.<br />
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<p>Uploaded the same 5 photos again but the upload stopped for ages at 75%.  Hopefully this works...</p>
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It would help if you posted pictures of the markings in question.<br />
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<p>I added 5 photos but that didn't work.  My first post and trying to work the forum out.</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on My newly acquired 1873 -s/n 433,646B Sporting Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just added an original, unmolested 1873 Sporting Rifle to my small collection yesterday.  A deceased estate piece, of one about 200 stored in a crate since 2002.</p>
<p>Serial number 433,646B.  38-40, octagonal, half magazine.</p>
<p>It cycles inert dummy rounds like silk.</p>
<p>Was wondering about the under-barrel/receiver front markings.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I do know the feeling all to well, have lost 2 archery bucks that I hit, bothers me to this day</p>
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All of my of my bucks have been taken in the PA and NY mountains. I usually hunt sitting on the ground (if there’s snow and good visibility I will still hunt from higher ground) and have a good familiarity with the terrain and a pretty good idea where the deer will be coming from. The terrain where I hunt does not lend itself to long distance shots and most shots are under 100yds (there have been a few exceptions). I prefer to shoot from ambush and will only take what I consider to be a ‘perfect’ shot at the animal (broadside, mid-body, in the ribs, just behind the shoulder). Maybe I’m kidding myself, but I can’t ever recall not knowing if my shot was a good hit and I’ve NEVER continued shooting at a deer. Typically, the deer will react (hunch-up) at the hit and take off on a 50 yard or so death run. I watch the run closely and normally find a blood trail and the buck on the ground close to where I last saw the white tail running thru the woods. Almost all of my deer have been taken with one shot (there have been exceptions where additional shots were necessary). I don’t think I’ve ever lost a buck. My gun of choice for the last 50 years has been a bolt action 270 topped with a 4X Leupold<br />
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<p>I don’t think I’ve ever lost a buck.<br />
If you had, you'd remember. That sticks more so than the big scores.<br />
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<p>Paul you are so right there! I can tell you with great detail of the ones I have lost. I think it's because it hurts the most.</p>
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