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                    <title>twobit on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yes all carbines had the caliber stamp place on the top of the barrel, between the shorter standard carbine sight and the receiver face.  The 25-20 WCF caliber stamp was made up in two lines on carbines only so that it would fit, but then changed to a single line once it was rotated to the left side.  It appears that Winchester commonly (not always) repositioned the rear sight dovetail close to the receiver face on short barrel rifles of 22 inches or less in an effort to lengthen the sight radius.  As a result, the typical early caliber stamp location on the top of the barrel would be covered when the rear sight elevator was moved rearward.  To counter act this the caliber stamp was position to the left side of the barrel.</p>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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twobit said<br />
The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  <br />
Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?<br />
I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.<br />
Michael<br />
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That is correct for a standard length barrel.  The ones I was referring to are 22 inch barrels like the OP's 1886.<br />
Michael<br />
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1907 and the caliber stamp is on the top of the barrel<br />
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twobit said<br />
The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  <br />
Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?<br />
I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.<br />
Michael<br />
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That is correct for a standard length barrel.  The ones I was referring to are 22 inch barrels like the OP's 1886.<br />
Michael<br />
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1907 and the caliber stamp is on the top of the barrel<br />
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<p>I thought that was probbly the case - here is a 92 SRC, also 1907, with the caliber stamp on the top of the barrel as I assume it should be.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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<p><strong><em>The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  </em></strong><br />
<strong><em>Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?</em></strong><br />
<strong><em>I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.</em></strong><br />
<strong><em>Michael</em></strong><br />
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<p>That is correct for a standard length barrel.  The ones I was referring to are 22 inch barrels like the OP's 1886.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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<p>twobit said<br />
The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  <br />
Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?<br />
I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.<br />
Michael<br />
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<p>Just like the Model 1894, the Model 1886 barrels had the caliber marking on the 12 o'clock barrel position up through mid year 1907 when it was rotated to the left side (10 o'clock) position.  The rifle in question was assembled in 1905.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>On the Model 1892 the caliber stamp did not begin to appear with any sort of consistency until mid 1908.  The barrel address stayed on the top of the barrel.  Here is my collection of 22 inch barrel length 1892 that are all pre 1908 and have the caliber stamp purposefully located on the left side of the barrel.<br />
Michael</p>
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<p>1907 and the caliber stamp is on the top of the barrel</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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That's a very nice model 1886 takedown, and as others have stated appears to be all original. Since the features do not match the letter (which in my opinion the mistake was made by whoever recorded it), it would help for resale if you took pictures of the matching numbers from the tang and stock to prove it left the factory as is.<br />
Al<br />
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<p>Very good idea. Thank You<br />
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<p>A very good point Al! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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                    <title>antler1 on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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<p><strong>tionesta1 said </strong><br />
That's a very nice model 1886 takedown, and as others have stated appears to be all original. Since the features do not match the letter (which in my opinion the mistake was made by whoever recorded it), it would help for resale if you took pictures of the matching numbers from the tang and stock to prove it left the factory as is.<br />
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<p>Very good idea. Thank You</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 15:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That's a very nice model 1886 takedown, and as others have stated appears to be all original. Since the features do not match the letter (which in my opinion the mistake was made by whoever recorded it), it would help for resale if you took pictures of the matching numbers from the tang and stock to prove it left the factory as is.</p>
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                    <title>twobit on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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<p>twobit said<br />
The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  <br />
Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?<br />
I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.<br />
Michael<br />
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<p>Just like the Model 1894, the Model 1886 barrels had the caliber marking on the 12 o'clock barrel position up through mid year 1907 when it was rotated to the left side (10 o'clock) position.  The rifle in question was assembled in 1905.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>On the Model 1892 the caliber stamp did not begin to appear with any sort of consistency until mid 1908.  The barrel address stayed on the top of the barrel.  Here is my collection of 22 inch barrel length 1892 that are all pre 1908 and have the caliber stamp purposefully located on the left side of the barrel.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Value of a Cody Letter</title>
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<p><strong>twobit said </strong><br />
The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  <br />
Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?<br />
I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.<br />
Michael<br />
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<p>Just like the Model 1894, the Model 1886 barrels had the caliber marking on the 12 o'clock barrel position up through mid year 1907 when it was rotated to the left side (10 o'clock) position.  The rifle in question was assembled in 1905.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that stands out to me is the fact that the caliber stamp is located on the top of the barrel.  The rear sight is positioned close to the receiver as is normal on 22 inch sporting rifle barrels but on Model 1892's The caliber stamp was rotated to the left side so that the rear sight elevator will not cover it.  As you can see in the image if the elevator is extended the proof stamp and caliber stamp will be covered.  </p>
<p>Bert, do other standard 22 inch ELW 1886 sporting rifle have the caliber stamp located on the barrel top?</p>
<p>I would ask for an image of the actual ledger entry for the rifle.  They can sometimes be "open for interpretation" if this rifle and/or consecutive rifles have complicated entries.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 20:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Here are some of my Winchester model 1892’s</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
Would the Argentinian re-bore be for the 45 ACP    I saw Mark Novak do a video on a 92 in 45-ACP that I really enjoyed.  That rifle didn’t run.  So I’m happy yours didn’t meet the same fate and is properly curated.  It’s funny, I’ll say, you and I buy the same guns according to the purist.  You seem to enjoy the pretty ones.  I tend to buy <del>poor condition</del> <strong>affordable</strong> guns, but I make sure it has a good bore.  I like the character, you seem to pride your collection on the pristine.  I appreciate what you’re doing though.  That’s what I enjoy about this forum. <br />
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Would the Argentinian re-bore be for the 45 ACP    I saw Mark Novak do a video on a 92 in 45-ACP that I really enjoyed.  That rifle didn’t run.  So I’m happy yours didn’t meet the same fate and is properly curated.  It’s funny, I’ll say, you and I buy the same guns according to the purist.  You seem to enjoy the pretty ones.  I tend to buy poor condition guns, but I make sure it has a good bore.  I like the character, you seem to pride your collection on the pristine.  I appreciate what you’re doing though.  That’s what I enjoy about this forum. </p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have learned that Argentina re- bored a bunch of these guns to 45 to match the guns that they were carrying. Many of these guns went to the police. In 1930 there was a revolution that toppled the dictatorship. Some of these guns were used in that skirmish? I could find no information on the Armory reconditioning theses weapons. Thanks so much for the history of this gun. It makes me value it more!</p>
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There is some writing on the bottom, but it is to small for me to see. The barrel on this gun looks new,Great Land and Grooves. Bright and shiny. It obviously was not shot a lot from the looks of the barrel. They also refinished it long be for any rust or pitting could accrue as it as smooth as a baby’s butt! I am lucky to have it. It is light. I can carry it all day!<br />
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<p>I looked for your SN in my spreadsheet and that rifle was sold on Gunbroker in July of 2025 out of Henderson, Nevada.  In that sale the photos show that it was indeed imported by Century Arms.  Enjoy the rifle.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There is some writing on the bottom, but it is to small for me to see. The barrel on this gun looks new,Great Land and Grooves. Bright and shiny. It obviously was not shot a lot from the looks of the barrel. They also refinished it long be for any rust or pitting could accrue as it as smooth as a baby’s butt! I am lucky to have it. It is light. I can carry it all day!</p>
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