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                    <title>TR on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>  There was a time that these high price guns were sold at gun shows, you saw the high rollers or their buyers. Gun show gossip kept you informed on who the buyers were, not now at the big auction houses. I don't even know a collector that is buying 200k to million dollar guns, but I'm sure they exist. T/R </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 19:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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<p><strong>martin rabeno said </strong><br />
Mike  After factory inscriptions are not that unusual. Happens all the time, even today<br />
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<p>Martin-</p>
<p>I agree, in this case I think it added to the value when combined with the provenance. I suppose a completed rifle could be brought back from the warehouse and inscribed with similar results. I didn't wade through all the written descriptions and story, too busy enjoying the eye candy! </p>
<p>Are you planning on making the Cody show?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 16:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think it's individuals with large piles of cash lying around who for whatever reason or reasons prefer collectible firearms over equities, bonds, commodities or art. I can understand that kind of thinking; I get lucky in equities now and then but old Winchesters are soooo much more fun! I'm concerned that the high-end collectibles market is beginning to behave like commodities markets but that may be because I don't truly understand either. I do know that commodities can be manipulated and suspect the high-end collectibles we enjoy watching could be manipulated as well. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 16:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>wolfbait on 1876 Winchester SRC - Pictures</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The stock barrel band is in the correct position for an 1886 carbine, but the band covers the barrel address.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 15:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on 1876 Winchester SRC - Pictures</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I like it!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>King Medallion on 1876 Winchester SRC - Pictures</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That looks super handy!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 14:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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steve004 said </p>
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Jeremy P said</p>
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Maverick said<br />
 I imagine if the right players get involved it will likely exceed the top end estimate.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't be shocked to see "almost" double that estimate. They're going to go loony over it. Pretty gun to say the least.<br />
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<p>You called this correctly.<br />
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<p>Definitely a pattern forming (or already formed)! <br />
I can't help but wonder, do many of these all go to individual buyers and are so expensive they have to pick from a niche area or somewhere out there are a few VERY large and VERY expensive collections....I'm guessing the latter. OR....alternatively, there's a private equity group bankrolling the buying and selling and they're just leveraging the hype selling of these.<br />
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<p>I agree and Great question! I was wondering the same thing myself when they sold the Rifleman’s rifle last year for 600k including the BP! Only other possibility I considered was is it a museum or museums using donor money and thus somewhat then insulated from the cost of overbidding? Easier to spend others people’s money I would think but who knows.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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Maverick said<br />
 I imagine if the right players get involved it will likely exceed the top end estimate.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't be shocked to see "almost" double that estimate. They're going to go loony over it. Pretty gun to say the least.<br />
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<p>You called this correctly.<br />
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<p>Definitely a pattern forming (or already formed)! </p>
<p>I can't help but wonder, do many of these all go to individual buyers and are so expensive they have to pick from a niche area or somewhere out there are a few VERY large and VERY expensive collections....I'm guessing the latter. OR....alternatively, there's a private equity group bankrolling the buying and selling and they're just leveraging the hype selling of these. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Confused" alt="Confused" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-confused.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>martin rabeno on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike  After factory inscriptions are not that unusual. Happens all the time, even today</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 11:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1892 44-40 Carbine Headspace Quesion</title>
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<p><strong>vociferous1 said </strong><br />
A Note for anyone who's interested. I finally took the rifle to the range and shot it. What a joy. Not only did it fire every time but was true at 100 yards! thanks everyone for your interest. <br />
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<p>Sounds like fun, glad it worked out.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 03:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me Martin's description of the engraving process, the side plate's difference in appearance and the Cody letter all suggest the inscription was added after it left the factory. Price is pretty hard to believe but when will another like this one come along? RIA did a great job promoting this rifle, IMHO.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong></p>
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<p>Maverick said<br />
 I imagine if the right players get involved it will likely exceed the top end estimate.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't be shocked to see "almost" double that estimate. They're going to go loony over it. Pretty gun to say the least.<br />
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<p>You called this correctly.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 00:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on An old wivestail???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the catalog page. </p>
<p>I'm still struggling to understand how the sight is graduated for both smokeless and black powder cartridges - when the velocity difference between the two is quite substantial.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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<p><strong>martin rabeno said </strong><br />
Looking at the photos and the written comments there seemed to be a question of the guide lines with the lettering  Yes they usually lay out lettering in this manner. My curiosity is with the side plate lettering It is authentic I am sure but the intensity of the case colors make me thing it was colored after being engraved and not at the same time as the rifle. Now when engraving a case hardened gun it needs t be annealed. After engraving it can be reharden. I am sure this is the case with this rifle  Now if it was done at the factory or after he fact  Who knows<br />
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<p>Martin…</p>
<p>Thank you, that answered my question and more</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the photos and the written comments there seemed to be a question of the guide lines with the lettering  Yes they usually lay out lettering in this manner. My curiosity is with the side plate lettering It is authentic I am sure but the intensity of the case colors make me thing it was colored after being engraved and not at the same time as the rifle. Now when engraving a case hardened gun it needs t be annealed. After engraving it can be reharden. I am sure this is the case with this rifle  Now if it was done at the factory or after he fact  Who knows</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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