Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Rifles

Cliff on A Conservation Story

Mon, 04 May 2026 00:20:01 +0000

Ive actually got this one straight enough to shoot right now. There is still a slight 'S" curve in it but, I wouldnt be afraid to shoot it. Im sure accuracy and velocity would suffer though. The bore aint bad but it aint good either. I can wait on a barrel 🙂

TXGunNut on An old wivestail???

Mon, 04 May 2026 00:01:26 +0000

I believe the 32WS is indeed an improvement on the 32-40 and the stories we hear about the 32WS as an effort to appease the BP shooters with a somewhat slower twist rate are interesting but I've always wondered about the success of that idea. The assertion that the 32WS is superior to the 30WCF is a fun way to see how much our friends know about either cartridge. I've never gotten useful firearms advice from an old wife.

Mike

TXGunNut on A Conservation Story

Sun, 03 May 2026 23:46:01 +0000

I believe MidwestCrisis is correct. A curved barrel might work, a sharply bent barrel will have a restriction that will dramatically raise pressures, likely even after attempted straightening. I would advise slugging it to confirm but you would need a flexible rod to drive that slug. A bore scope may be helpful, maybe not. I like the replacement barrel idea.

Mike

MidwestCrisis on A Conservation Story

Sun, 03 May 2026 23:02:51 +0000

You’re talking about this device that the nazis came up with toward the end of the war for inner city fighting. I believe I’ve seen one for the k98 that had a mirror mounted to it for sighting. The history channel stuff is crap. On you tube, look up demolition ranch and his last video on shooting through pipes. He did it several times and I’d say perfected the test. That barrel seems to have a kink, that I’d expect would explode the barrel.

after posting a Nazi rifle. I feel the need to say hail Winchester. The 95 in 30-06 would have defeated the Huns.

Jeremy P on Model 94 30-30

Sun, 03 May 2026 22:27:45 +0000

That's it then, for some reason I thought that happened 10-20 years earlier.

450 Fuller on An old wivestail???

Sun, 03 May 2026 21:43:01 +0000

Bert:

For reasons unknown, the 32WS attachment is not loading/appearing-at least for me.

Regatds;

Ridge M.

Bert H. on An old wivestail???

Sun, 03 May 2026 21:29:02 +0000

We do not refer to them as "old Wives' Tails" on a gun forum... women seldom if ever talk about old guns!

Instead, the term "urban myth" is a lot more befitting.

My understanding is that the 32 Winchester Special was developed as an improvement (replacement) for the older 32-40 black powder cartridge. The .32 caliber was long known and recognized for its inherent accuracy, but it had not yet been loaded to its potential. The 32 W.S. cartridge was considerably and ballistically more potent than the older 32-40 cartridge. Even in its smokeless W.H.V. factory loading, the 32-40 was nowhere near the potency of the 32 W.S. The attached picture is a scanned copy of the April 1905 Winchester catalog.

Bert

oldcrankyyankee on An old wivestail???

Sun, 03 May 2026 20:59:42 +0000

I was talking to a friend of mine about the 32 WS, and he stated/asked about the reasoning behind it's development. I could not answer that question. He stated he had heard it was because Winchester goofed up and made a whole lot of barrels bored out to 32 cal. when they where supposed to be 30 cal. I had to laugh and say" well anything is possible and Winchester was noted for not throwing anything away." Any one got a different idea about it.

Bert H. on Model 94 30-30

Sun, 03 May 2026 19:59:01 +0000

Jeremy P said

Bert H. said



What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to? I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.
Bert


Didn't they start stamping "W" right there too around the 1920's when they switched to another bluing process....Du-Lite maybe? I forget which one.

No. The "W" stamp was the first marking associated with a new bluing type (Du-Lite), and it was instituted in early 1939. I am not aware of any other marking types used by Winchester for that purpose.

Bert

Jeremy P on Model 94 30-30

Sun, 03 May 2026 19:47:20 +0000

Bert H. said

What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to? I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.
Bert

Didn't they start stamping "W" right there too around the 1920's when they switched to another bluing process....Du-Lite maybe? I forget which one.

oldcrankyyankee on A Conservation Story

Sun, 03 May 2026 19:44:23 +0000

Zebulon said
Any chance it will shoot around corners? I think there were some arc-shaped barrels developed for World War I trench warfare. Don't know how they shot but coyotes aren't quite smart enough to see the muzzle pointed at them even though you were in profile...

Bill, think M-3 Grease gun.

Bert H. on Model 94 30-30

Sun, 03 May 2026 17:18:22 +0000

Hotchkiss10 said

Type 6 UT marking...

Thanks for the pictures.

Bert

Bert H. on Model 94 30-30

Sun, 03 May 2026 17:13:37 +0000

Jeremy P said

Bert H. said
Winchester stamped the "W" on many thousands of Model 94 (and Model 64) receiver frames from February 1939 through February 1941. Serial number 1230928 was a manufactured in June 1940, and it is more than likely a standard Carbine. Can you post a picture of the factory roll marking on the upper tang? I suspect that it has a Type 6 marking, but it could be a Type 7.
Bert

Bert, did this date range of "W" stampings have a different purpose from the earlier "bluing experiment" marks?

What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to? I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.

Bert

Edward Southgate on Picked up a nice flat band carbine this week

Sun, 03 May 2026 13:48:45 +0000

Very nice and at a reasonable price .Congratulations .

Jeremy P on A Conservation Story

Sun, 03 May 2026 13:00:46 +0000

Zebulon said
Any chance it will shoot around corners? I think there were some arc-shaped barrels developed for World War I trench warfare. Don't know how they shot but coyotes aren't quite smart enough to see the muzzle pointed at them even though you were in profile...

I think Mythbusters did an episode on curved shooting, based on a popular movie where the characters had that power. There was actually some validity to it if the angle was not too extreme, the could still shoot!