Chuck said

Zebulon said
 A 2 minute rifle will easily stay within an 8 inch circle at 400 yards. Four hundred yards is just one hell of a long way to be shooting at a live, unwounded game animal. 
  

I believe if you have a good rifle and load and you have practiced at 400 yds or further, 400 yds is not too far.  Most hunting rifles can shoot well out to 400 yds.  I don't hunt anymore but I do shoot way farther than 400 yds every week.  I'd feel comfortable beyond 400. 
  

I hope you gentlemen are talking about a 8 Inch Circle free-handed. And are we talking open sights or a scope?

There's no reason on a solid rest at 400 yards you should be about to cover up your thumbnail all day long with a scope on. As long as nothing is wrong with your rifle. Or yourself for that matter (eyesight being a huge factor). Depending on what part of the country you are in most people don't shoot past 100-200 yards, especially here in the south. Usually they don't have the land to shoot much further or its not open enough and has too much cover to see much past 100 yards. I have some places I hunt there are a mix of hardwood bottoms, piney woods, and open agricultural fields. 

I shot a 8pt buck year before last at 375 yards in a open cornfield and you'd thought I shot it off the moon the way some people around me hunt.

Each there own though. Certainly don't shoot any further or rather any distance at all that you're not comfortable doing so.

Sincerely,

Maverick

Private Smith said
Thanks Bert. That's what I figured, and it's good to get confirmation from an expert.
I haven't encountered many '92's with a ramp front sight. It was the first thing that caught my eye while it was on the rifle rack.
Additionally, I've read somewhere that the numbers stamped on the lever, lower tang, etc, are bin numbers for factory redo's.  
Mine has 305 stamped on the lower tang and the lever.
  

Hello,

I have sampled 164 carbines with the ramp style front sight while working on my research survey of the Model 1892 rifles.  I do not have Good images of the proof stamps on of the rifles but 49 of them have Oval/P proofs designating non factory replacements.  71 rifles have just the W/P proof stamp indicating factory work.  The balance (44 rifles) have "no data" for the barrel proofs.

Michael

Chuck said
Burt, nice letter.  What is meant by "Winchester high velocity"?
  

The "Winchester high velocity" indicates that the barrel was Nickel Steel versus the standard high strength steel, and that the sights were regulated for smokeless powder versus the standard black powder sights.  Usually, the entry in the ledgers was "W.H.V."

This is an example:

Bert

Zebulon said
 A 2 minute rifle will easily stay within an 8 inch circle at 400 yards. Four hundred yards is just one hell of a long way to be shooting at a live, unwounded game animal. 
  

I believe if you have a good rifle and load and you have practiced at 400 yds or further, 400 yds is not too far.  Most hunting rifles can shoot well out to 400 yds.  I don't hunt anymore but I do shoot way farther than 400 yds every week.  I'd feel comfortable beyond 400. 

tionesta1 (AL) said
The pistol grip looks like the I checkering pattern, but the forend is not a factory pattern.
  

This is factory I-pattern on a pistol grip... noticeably less total coverage.

Bert

The factory would fit Super Grade style detachable sling swivel bases on special order.  When they did, they installed the front swivel base like they did on a Super Grade, meaning that two knurled nuts were set into the barrel channel for the base machine screws, and there is no center hole and inletting for the standard sling swivel.  It's easy to see if you can pull the barreled action out of the stock.

The SG butt stock swivel base was positioned such that the eye of the swivel base sat in the same place as the fixed loop of the standard swivel.  Most people adding SG bases to an existing standard stock would use the existing hole as either the front or back hole for the two SG base screws.  The result is that the SG base is either too far forward or too far back, which is obvious.  If they positioned the swivel base correctly, drilling two new holes, there is a vacant hole in the center that shouldn't be there if it was a factory job.  You'd have to remove the swivel base and look.

It is possible to find M70 standard grade rifles or Featherweights with factory SG swivel bases.  It's just that most were installed aftermarket. 

Lou  

The 1964 Model 70, for all its cosmetic faults, is provably more accurate out of the box. The barrel is floated and the action is stiffer. 

The pre-64 and later versions of the Model 70 are more than accurate enough as hunting rifles in any reasonable circumstances. They are capable out of the box of far more inherent accuracy than nine out of ten hunters are capable of reaching, much less exceeding. A 2 minute rifle will easily stay within an 8 inch circle at 400 yards. Four hundred yards is just one hell of a long way to be shooting at a live, unwounded game animal. 

Darrin Smith said

Burt Humphrey said
This one is pretty unique with the rifle butt, capped pistol grip, full magazine and in great original condition.
  

Very nice Burt. Pretty sure I hadn't seen the configuration before. What cal. Is it?
  

Mark

Burt Humphrey said
This one is pretty unique with the rifle butt, capped pistol grip, full magazine and in great original condition.

Very nice Burt. Pretty sure I hadn't seen the configuration before. What cal. Is it?