Mike

Well, I can assure you I've waded into some feral hogs with a levergun and a six-shooter and felt well-armed. Round count was low, meat went into the freezer. I made an ineffective shot on a big boar with the levergun, he brushed against my leg heading for a creek bed before I could correct my error. I settled it with a 45 Colt round between his eyes several minutes later when he greeted me at eye level coming around a bend of the creek bed inside of six feet. My guide wanted to get it on video but said he's never seen me move that fast. OTOH I've never been face to face with a wounded, angry hog close enough to spit on. I'd love to say I was carrying a first variation 1894 in 38-55 and a Custer era 1873 SAA .45 but I wasn't.

Mike

I also find this one interesting and certainly have never seen one with two forearms and not mentioned in the letter! The fact that RIA, mentions the fact that it's mention in the Winchester 1895 book, and both Rob and Brad feel it's correct on page #272!

Tony

Anyway, thoughts on this unusual M1895?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4100/9/special-order-winchester-model-1895-rifle-with-threaded-muzzle

By the way, I like unusual M1895's and here's one I used to have.  I've posted it before but probably not everyone has seen it.  32 inch special order barrel.  Had been sent back to the factory a couple times.

Tony as heavy as the saw maybe, I lugged around a pig(m-60) for awhile and the MA deuce. Those are heavy!

Tom,

First off, Thank You for you're service! I hope Veterans Day was a pleasant one for you yesterday!

Thanks to ALL of the Veterans who sacrificed they're lives, and dedication, and time served.

I'm in agreement with you on the weight and lugging around those others as I happen to be a fan of all three, along with the BAR, that JMB, had some doings with. No shortage here on firepower. The MA Deuce is a fun adventure to shoot also! 

We tend to eat our Wheaties Daily and practice our military push em ups! LOL!

Tony

Mike

Anthony #5411 said
I know if I as a collector was thinking about, "going to war', with someone, I surely wouldn't grab any of my collectable Winchesters!
Before my scrapping young son became a Scout Sniper in the USMC, he was a Squad machine gunner carrying a M-249, (a SAW, in Afghanistan), and you want to talk about heavy!!! Now that something I grab for war or even an assault on my place, protecting my family!!!

Light Machine Gun, 5.56 mm, M249 SAW

M249 Para with an ACOG optical sight

Type
Light machine gun
Squad automatic weapon

Place of origin
Belgium / United States

Service history

In service
1984–present

Used by
See Users

Wars

United States invasion of Panama
Gulf War
Somali Civil War
Bosnian War
Kosovo War
War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)
Iraq War
Syrian Civil War
Russo-Ukrainian War (2014–present)[1]
Yemeni Civil War (2014–present)
Saudi-led intervention in Yemen
Haitian gang war

Production history

Designed
1976

Manufacturer
FN America

Unit cost
US$4,087[2]

Produced
Late 1970s–present

Variants
See Variants

Specifications

Mass

7.5 kg (17 lb) empty
10 kg (22 lb) with 200-round soft pouch

Length
40.75 in (1,035 mm)

Barrel length

465 mm (18.3 in)
521 mm (20.5 in)

Cartridge
5.56×45mm NATO

Action
Gas-operated long-stroke piston system, open bolt, rotating bolt

Rate of fire
850 rounds/min

Muzzle velocity
915 m/s (3,000 ft/s)

Effective firing range

700 m (2,300 ft) (point target, 465 mm barrel)
800 m (2,600 ft) (point target, 521 mm barrel)
3,600 m (11,800 ft) (maximum range)

Feed system
M27 linked disintegrating belt in a 100- or 200-round soft pouch
STANAG magazine

Sights
Iron sights or Picatinny rail for various optical sights

References
[3][4]

The answer is Yes to you're obvious question!
"We have the right to Keep and Bear Arms!" 
Tony
  

Tony as heavy as the saw maybe, I lugged around a pig(m-60) for awhile and the MA deuce. Those are heavy!

Rob won't steer you wrong in any way possible as you're finding out. We're glad that He's taking the time and doing this great undertaking, in researching this. We're also glad to have you aboard and lending anything that you can from abroad! He's certainly made us aware of something that many of us knew nothing about, including myself!

Enjoy the forum as many of us do, and try to help out others out there!

Tony

thanks a lot for your warm welcome.

Regards, Chris

after seeing this copy, I spent a lot of time in several internet forums trying to find out the story of this extraordinary rifle. And in the process, I discovered that there are, in fact, several examples of this rifle existing.

Common to all of these copies is a round rather than an octagonal barrel, a cleaning rod mounted to the left side of the rifle and sling swivels on the right side. The loading mechanism on the magazine tube differs from a standard Henry 1860. Particularely noticeable were the proof and acceptance marks on the rifles several components, most notably, the double marked L beneath a crown on the receivers right side.

So far, so good...in this Henry forum and in the Winchester collectors community, for many years has been speculated about this so - called Bavarian Henry.

To get further information I decided to contact WACA and sent photos of the sn 197 copy. And this led to me meeting Rob Kassab.

Since than Rob and I are in close contact about this Henry topic - it is Rob whom I have to thank for my membership in WACA!

His mail to Liège Grande Curtius Museum provides a detailed account of the knowledge that has since been gathered regarding this Henry copy. So let's wait and see what new informations this provides.

Thanks for all your help supporting Rob and we hope to see you here as a regular on the forum!

I am looking forward to seeing any additional information you find on the "Bavarian" Henrys.

Best Regards,

since Monday I am brand new member of WACA. Rob Kassab drew my attention to this Henry forum. Everything here is unknown territory for me and step by step I am trying to find my way around.

I live in the North of Germany and I am collecting US Civil War breechloading carbines. In August this year I was invited to visit a very extensive private firearms collection in the hope of seeing Civil War carbines there.

But what a surprise, instead of this the owner proudly presented a rifle he called ' Bavarian Henry'. I have to confess that I felt somewhat 'electrified' when I saw this old rifle and received the owner’s permission to take some quick photos with my phone camera, so sorry for the quality.

But before going on in this subject, here the photos...they show a so - called 'Bavarian Henry', sn 197...

 If you want you can email me the pictures at the address below.

Bob