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                    <title>Maverick on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Does that rifle come with a brand new Chevy or Ford pickup and they forgot to include the photos in the auction?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 04:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
One interesting observation about the write-up. Story is that one hundred barrels were tested, best barrel was set aside. Ten lots of barrels were tested, the ten best barrels were tested, best became part of a "One of One Thousand". The other nine barrels were used to build "One of One Hundred" rifles. Why do we not have nine "One of One Hundred" rifles for every " One of One Thousand"?<br />
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<p>All of that language spurs off of the original 1875 Advertisement Flyer for the 1 of 1000. It was just a Advertisement Ploy, they never tested them or serialized them as such. </p>
<p>The barrels should have read 1 of 100 for the 1of1,000 and 1 of 10 for the 1of100. For the Model 76 less than 60 1of1000s were made and less than 10 1of100s were made. </p>
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<p><strong>oldcrankyyankee said </strong><br />
Well if you to spend your money and for, what $4.00 more, I guess go for the gust and get the 1 of 1000. Guess that's why there are less 1 of 100,s. <br />
BTW, while we are on the subject of 1of 1000's, they had all these long range sight options and a lot of hoopla about they're unheard of accuracy right. Has anyone actually ever tried to shoot a 44 or 38 wcf 1000 yard's? I would love to see that.<br />
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<p>The 1,000 yards comes from the period Creedmoor Matches held at the Creedmoor Range in New York and its max range was 1,000 yards. And international teams of guys held competition there every year for a long time.<img data-upload="1" data-width="670" data-height="387" title="creedmoor-1874-planofrange.jpg" alt="creedmoor-1874-planofrange.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/maverick/2026/05/creedmoor-1874-planofrange.jpg" /></p>
<p>I've only ever made steel clang, but don't recall how far. The Matthew Quigley shoot in Montana has a life-sized Buffalo Steel target at 805 yards for you to hit. Most guys shoot something in 45 Gov. or close to it. There are guys that shoot .44 &#038; .38 caliber bullets, but in Montana they want a heavier grain bullet to cut through the wind. My dad and brother made up some special 550 grain 45 Gov rounds for the shoot. There was a guy that for years shot and I do believe won it while shooting a rifle chambered in 22Long Rifle. If you look in the 1878 Winchester Catalog a Capt. J.E. Stetson one a medal at 200 yards while standing using a Winchester. Along with winning another shoot with the highest scores for the "Running Deer" target at 100 yards. So I imagine most shooting competitions  of the time period were in this range. </p>
<p>Most people nowadays can't shoot, especially at a running target.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 04:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Unless "well over" means &#062;$2k USD and if it has condition, you bought a prewar 71 special at what I think is a bargain price. If it still has its original strap and its Supergrade swivels,  I'd bet somebody took good care of the rest of the rifle. <br />
I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether an untapped receiver means a 98a would be correct for a 1940 d.o.m. <br />
I shoot my collection and need an aperture sight for my eyes. Somebody had robbed the 56W that had been original to my own 1949 gun. In my case, since I couldn't have the bolt peep, the tapped left receiver wall was serendipitous. My strong preference in micrometer receiver sights is the Redfield 70. It was tough finding the as new, steel Redfield 80W I finally paid too much for and nevertheless have to put up with target knobs. But, with a Redfield Sourdough up front and a generous aperture screwed in, the gun still suits me very well. It would likely be the last one I'd sell. <br />
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<p>Bill,</p>
<p>The No. 98A bolt peep was the standard peep sight through 1947 when it was replaced by the Lyman No. 56.  In the years prior to 1948, Winchester installed a significant number of Redfield No. 70 and No. 80 series sights on the Model 71 on special order.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 02:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The 1894 linked above is truly an exceptional gun. To the best of my limited knowledge the description is accurate and the author of the above-mentioned book made a wise choice when he put it on the cover of his book. I just finished re-reading the 2nd edition and will soon attempt to download the revision generously offered by the author awhile back. I'm surprised this rifle is available, in the light of six figures for a 1 of 1000 maybe this rifle represents an opportunity we may not see again.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I had the later (improved) version of the Model 71 and I feel it is a better gun mechanically than the revered 1886 chambered in a truly remarkable cartridge. I had poor luck coming up with a comfortable reduced load and abandoned the project after developing a full power load that was suitable but a little uncomfortable. I've had my fun with "thumpers" over the years but the increased risk of a detached retina takes the fun out of them at my age. I believe the Model 71 is a buyers' market these days as it took over a year to sell a rather nice example. I think if you have any reservations about this one I'd wait for another, there were at least five offered at the Cody show last year. The 71 is a great hunting rifle but quite honestly nothing in Texas needs that much killing, other than the occasional ill-tempered boar hog, and I already have just the prescription for his affliction. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
There’s no checkering.  Most of the blue is there except the fore end cap.  Stock’s have a lot of use but not refinished.  Hoping that the wrist crack will scare most buyers away.   I was curious about the recoil.  I have a ‘69 model 70 in 338 WM and that’s about as hard as I like to get hit.  I’ll read Burt’s articles tonight.  <br />
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<p>Manageable recoil is subjective but the 338 Winchester Magnum generates significantly more foot pounds of recoil at a higher recoil velocity, than the 348 WCF, in guns and bullets of equal weight. </p>
<p>Subjectively, I don't find the recoil of my Model 70 30/06 with 180 grain bullets noticeably different than that of my Model 71 with 200 grain bullets, both loaded to factory velocities. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 01:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Unless "well over" means &#062;$2k USD and if it has condition, you bought a prewar 71 special at what I think is a bargain price. If it still has its original strap and its Supergrade swivels,  I'd bet somebody took good care of the rest of the rifle. </p>
<p>I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether an untapped receiver means a 98a would be correct for a 1940 d.o.m. </p>
<p>I shoot my collection and need an aperture sight for my eyes. Somebody had robbed the 56W that had been original to my own 1949 gun. In my case, since I couldn't have the bolt peep, the tapped left receiver wall was serendipitous. My strong preference in micrometer receiver sights is the Redfield 70. It was tough finding the as new, steel Redfield 80W I finally paid too much for and nevertheless have to put up with target knobs. But, with a Redfield Sourdough up front and a generous aperture screwed in, the gun still suits me very well. It would likely be the last one I'd sell. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 00:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s no checkering.  Most of the blue is there except the fore end cap.  Stock’s have a lot of use but not refinished.  Hoping that the wrist crack will scare most buyers away.   I was curious about the recoil.  I have a ‘69 model 70 in 338 WM and that’s about as hard as I like to get hit.  I’ll read Burt’s articles tonight.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 00:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>rogertherelic on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>There must be something in the air!  That just happenened to me this morning!  A Model 71 "SPECIAL" c.1940 (ser. 18310) short tang, untapped receiver, with what appears to be the <span style="text-decoration: underline">original</span> sling and swivels.  I paid well over 3 times what Midwest Crisis "might go".  However, the stocks are almost unatainable!  Hope to get pics tomorrow.  RDB</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 23:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Well, the seller does take American Express.  If I could figure out a way to get out of it, I'd be tempted to see what old AMEX would do four nanoseconds after I hit the BIN button. </p>
<p>Just to hear somebody with a South Asian accent scream "SAY WHAT???" </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 23:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My advice is go for it if you can get it for a reasonable price. Is it the Standard Grade or the Special? The bolt peep is pricey all by itself. Very popular. </p>
<p>Without knowing more, I'd assume the crack is in the wrist, caused by dropping the fairly heavy gun on its steel toe. </p>
<p>If that is so, you should be able to make the repair from inside the inletting, using Acraglass as you propose. You already know how to increase the glue joint surfaces and make cross-joint pillars with a sharp chisel. My only advice would be to use the gel version and add some powdered aluminum to  the gel. </p>
<p>The 71 is the last iteration of the Model 1886, made of stronger steel and modified to use coil springs rather than flat springs. It is my favorite Winchester lever action rifle and I think it's the finest rifle the company has ever made. </p>
<p>The 348 Winchester was WRACO's way of creating a magnum version of the then popular 33 WCF. They upped the groove diameter to a full .348 from .338 and, whereas the older 33 case is a necked down 45-70 Gov't, the 348 case is a necked down 50-110 WCF. </p>
<p>The 348 is a fine, flexible cartridge that was once available in 150, 200, and 250 grain bullet loadings, although it has been obsolete for a while now. The 200 grain factory load was a Silvertip that had a published velocity of about 2550 foot seconds, as I recall, assuming the 24" barrel rifle. There was a 20" prewar version neither of us can afford but it was an earsplitting flamethrower anyway.</p>
<p>My experience has been with a 1990 Browning 71 and then a 1949 Winchester 71 Special (the one with checkered stocks, grip cap, and Supergrade sling swivels.) </p>
<p>I think the 348 handles cast bullets well at reduced velocities using 4759 and 3031 and can be handloaded with jacketed bullets to pretty much factory velocities with 4350. While the 150 grain load loses velocity quickly, it still makes up into a very fine Whitetail load within 100 to 150 yards, with mild recoil. The 250 grain bullet at full velocity will kill anything that walks on the North American Continent, as long as the range is not too great. </p>
<p>If you want to learn more about the 71, our own Bert H. has published several scholarly articles on this model in the <em>Collector </em>that are easily found in the archives, one of which I believe appeared in 2026. These cover the subject thoroughly and I commend them to you strongly and, preferably, before you bid.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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<strong>Tedk said </strong><br />
$?<br />
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<p>I might go 500-550</p>
<p>its a 1946 sn 23802</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>$?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 71 Coming Up </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Every time I say I’m not buying another gun for a while.  I find a few I want to watch then one starts whispering to me when the auction gets close to closing.  This is a 71 with 24” barrel and bolt peep. Decent finish but says there’s a crack in the wrist.  Can’t really see it in the photos.  I believe I could do a blind repair with acroglass. It could be a fun project if the price stays right.  I’m not familiar with the newer generation rifles or the 348 caliber. Any thoughts or advice?</p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 21:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on 40-82 refinished???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I would gladly take 1/2 of that for My c.c.'rd "94 , maybe even a 1/3.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 20:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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