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                    <title>bumppo on pre-64 model 70 with letter "G" marked on rear of receiver?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>can anyone suggest what an uppercase letter "G" might mean, marked on the rear of the receiver of my pre-64 model 70 serial no. 717xx?</p>
<p>this "G" is not added to the serial number as a prefix, it is a clear marking on the flat bottom of the rear of the receiver where the bolt is inserted, and just forward of the rear action screw cap.  </p>
<p>I've failed to understand the procedure required to upload a photo of this marking into this post.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 12:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Acquiring a Winchester 92 from 1907</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Good morning from Texas,</p>
<p>The checkering is definitely not factory original.  I do not follow the Swiss/European market closely at all but have a little experience with it.  The conversion from Swiss Franc to US is a reasonable price for the rifle.  What is the full serial number of the gun?  I can not quite make it out in the image.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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                    <title>Anthony on Acquiring a Winchester 92 from 1907</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Goatkeeper,</p>
<p>I think you're doing good with you're pictures, and would like to see more, including the barrel address, and the serial number, and more detailed pics, and close ups.</p>
<p>The pitting on the Magazine tube looks to almost be pretty common, from these older firearms, and the split in the tube shows how it was made, although the seam was more commonly against the barrel, on some models, concealing it. Better pics could help us see this better. Especially, closer pics of the barrel, at the forearm wood, below the rear sight, where you show something on the barrel, as far as pitting or older cleaned up pits and/or markings on the side of the barrel.</p>
<p>Note that the wood, shows a straight stocked, checkered Walnut, "Deluxe Style", (Collector term), checkered stock.  A letter confirming this configuration, and the members here, (twobit/Michael), who are currently surveying this model, can add a lot more factory records information, verifying what you have, and they're opinions, as they won't steer you wrong.</p>
<p>I don't think you could go wrong, at those numbers you posted, as from what I can see and tell, the carbine looks to be a good honest, src, and those were definitely used as tools, of the time. If it we're me, and the barrel length measurements are correct, (I'm assuming 20 inches),  and a closer inspection  proved to be accurate, it would be a nice src to add. The pics certainly don't look to be a cut barrel. It wouldn't stop me from going after this piece at those numbers, as I like it! IMHO!</p>
<p>I would much rather see a Winchester like this, as many other would, than it or another one being cleaned up, and being refinished, or mi-represented. </p>
<p>Thanks for Sharing! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p>Anthony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 11:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Goatkeeper on Acquiring a Winchester 92 from 1907</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Dear all</p>
<p>I have the possibility to buy a 1892 Winchester in .44 WCF, dated 1906.</p>
<p>Priced at 700 CHF, which ist around 900 USD</p>
<p>I added the pics I got. </p>
<p>the only concern is the front of the mag tube, otherwise I would go for it. <br />
I bought by the seller before and trust him, when he says it operates smoothly and reliable with current ammo.</p>
<p>Any tips, suggestions?</p>
<p>Thank you all!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on The average 1866</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob.  I know I have a picture of a bunch of them in the same condition but can't find it.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 01:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1912 Model 1894 SRC in 30 WCF: Likely Sights at Time Of Manufacture?</title>
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<p><strong>Aleck said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said<br />
I can see a slight rub mark (wear) on the top of the barrel halfway between the dovetail and the frame ring.  The rear sight was apparently removed fairly early in the Carbines lifetime.  If the gun were mine, I would find a No. 34C 3-leaf express sight to put back in the empty slot.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thanks. I'm on the hunt for one!<br />
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<p>Get in touch with Ben Tolson (here on the WACA forums), he is our resident sight hound.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 23:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Aleck on 1912 Model 1894 SRC in 30 WCF: Likely Sights at Time Of Manufacture?</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
I can see a slight rub mark (wear) on the top of the barrel halfway between the dovetail and the frame ring.  The rear sight was apparently removed fairly early in the Carbines lifetime.  If the gun were mine, I would find a No. 34C 3-leaf express sight to put back in the empty slot.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thanks. I'm on the hunt for one!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 23:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1912 Model 1894 SRC in 30 WCF: Likely Sights at Time Of Manufacture?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I can see a slight rub mark (wear) on the top of the barrel halfway between the dovetail and the frame ring.  The rear sight was apparently removed fairly early in the Carbines lifetime.  If the gun were mine, I would find a No. 34C 3-leaf express sight to put back in the empty slot.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 23:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Aleck on 1912 Model 1894 SRC in 30 WCF: Likely Sights at Time Of Manufacture?</title>
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<p>rogertherelic said<br />
There seems to be no signs the carbine ever had a barrel sight installed.  Is that a possiblity?   RDB<br />
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<p>Yes, but Winchester would have put a blank piece in the dovetail slot versus leaving it empty.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thanks Roger and Bert. I, too, was wondering about the rear sight.</p>
<p>FWIW, here are a couple of higher resolution photos.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 23:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on The average 1866</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here are the bulged cases from firing in my 66.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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                    <title>Chuck on The average 1866</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Honestly when I was making my first post I was thinking, should I really post this?  I shouldn't have.  I purposely left out some info.  Don't mess with this unless you have some experience with what is necessary to accomplish this task.</p>
<p>I could not find the pic of the fired and bulged Henry cases that we talked about some time in the past.  When I showed the pic to Lou Behling he said it was a common occurrence. </p>
<p>But here are some pics showing the bolt face of an unmodified rim fire and a modified to center fire. </p>
<p>On the top is an original 66 RF bolt face.  See how it is flush.  The second pic show the conversion to center fire.  NOTICE that the bold face is raised to alleviate the excessive head space.   </p>
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<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="653" data-height="1452" title="Win-1866-Bolt-Face.jpg" alt="Win-1866-Bolt-Face.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cwachter/2026/04/Win-1866-Bolt-Face.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="327" data-height="615" title="Win-1866-CF-Bolt-Face.jpg" alt="Win-1866-CF-Bolt-Face.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/cwachter/2026/04/Win-1866-CF-Bolt-Face.jpg" /> </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1886 lightweight or extra light?</title>
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<p><strong>ken1989 said </strong><br />
I have a few extra light weights in my collection.<br />
The stock does have large hole as do my other extra light weights<br />
Front sight is soldered onto barrel.<br />
Does not have a nickel steel (smokeless) barrel.<br />
Need to figure out how to post photos here, probably need a subscription.<br />
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<p>If you send the pictures to me in an email, I will post them for you.</p>
<p>Bert - <a href="mailto:Win1885@msn.com" target="_blank">Win1885@msn.com</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 01:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>ken1989 on 1886 lightweight or extra light?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a few extra light weights in my collection.</p>
<p>The stock does have large hole as do my other extra light weights</p>
<p>Front sight is soldered onto barrel.</p>
<p>Does not have a nickel steel (smokeless) barrel.</p>
<p>Need to figure out how to post photos here, probably need a subscription.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 01:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>cj57 on 1886 lightweight or extra light?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ken,  </p>
<p>That sounds like a cool gun! Another tell tail sign of being a lightweight is a ramp front sight, please post some photos of this gem!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 23:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1886 lightweight or extra light?</title>
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<p><strong>ken1989 said </strong><br />
I have a special order 1886 with a 26" barrel that letters as a lightweight. Burt, back in 2019 we had some email communication about this rifle. These are your comments "I have not seen an ELW Rifle with a 26-inch barrel until today.  All of them I have encountered thus far have had a 22-inch barrel.  In addition to the extra long extra lightweight barrel, the plain PG stock without any checkering is somewhat uncommon, and the sight configuration is quite unusual as well (I would have expected a Lyman tang sight with the Lyman No. 6 rear sight and the Lyman No. 4 front sight).  Somebody specifically special ordered the Marbles Flexible Joint tang sight."<br />
WINCHESTER MODEL 1886 - SERIAL NUMBER 13910X<br />
Serial number application date not available<br />
Type: Rifle<br />
Caliber: 40/65<br />
Barrel Type: Round<br />
Barrel Length: 26 inches<br />
Extra Light<br />
Trigger: Plain<br />
Plain, Pistol grip<br />
Sights: Marbles flex joint rear, Lyman leaf, Lyman hunting front sights<br />
1/2 Magazine<br />
Shotgun butt rubber<br />
Received in warehouse on October 07, 1907<br />
Shipped from warehouse on October 09, 1907, Order number 113329<br />
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FYI,  This is my first post. Long time Winchester collector.  Presently a "Guest", will join when my Cody membership is up for renewal.<br />
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<p>What you have is a special-ordered rifle with a barrel that is lighter than standard.  In the strictest sense, it is not a true ELW. </p>
<p>Based on the factory ledger record information, it apparently does not have Nickel Steel (smokeless powder) barrel.  How is the front sight attached to the barrel?  Does it have large bored hole in the butt stock?</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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