Uplander said

TXGunNut said
I suspect the OP is looking for a 300 Win Mag, I think we see a hard pass in his future. The gun he's looking for will come along if he's patient. And some good ribs WILL help pass the time!
 
Mike
  

Actually was looking for a original 300 H&H and this gun is incredible shape but was listed as a 300 winmag which of course was not available in 55. And then the milled barrel with a "W" and the shell lengths ..........etc
  

Quite honestly the 300 H&H is the only one of the magnums I'd be interested in. I'm a 30 Guvmint 06 guy but the 300 H&H in the right rifle would certainly catch my eye. I don't like belted cartridges but I'll make exceptions. Happy hunting and good luck!

Mike

TXGunNut said
I suspect the OP is looking for a 300 Win Mag, I think we see a hard pass in his future. The gun he's looking for will come along if he's patient. And some good ribs WILL help pass the time!
 
Mike
  

Actually was looking for a original 300 H&H and this gun is incredible shape but was listed as a 300 winmag which of course was not available in 55. And then the milled barrel with a "W" and the shell lengths ..........etc

The .300 is by far the most popular Weatherby caliber and, while it has been surpassed in velocity by larger cased.30 cartridges, its closest competitor has been the .300 Winchester Magnum. While the Weatherby .300 has many detractors, including a lot of blowhards who've never shot one, the indisputable, historical facts are that it has killed everything that walks from African elephants on down, more than several times. Is it ideal for everything? No, but it is a very effective cartridge if properly loaded and you can shoot it accurately. 

I think the Winchester and Weatherby .300s are very versatile and generate the most recoil and muzzle blast that most hunters can learn to tolerate and shoot accurately without resort to a muzzle brake. And in a rifle weighing no more than what a man in reasonably good shape can carry in the field. 

I said learn to tolerate - because these are not rifles to take out of the box with and go on a $15,000 hunt with.  They require (for ordinary mortals) as many short sessions, preferably with reduced loads, as you can manage, working up to full power, ending each of many sessions with a couple of the big ones. That is the best way to avoid a flinch. 

I've owned and shot a Kimber of Oregon Super America BGR .300 Winchester enough to say it's loud and kicks hard but in a well designed stock like the Kimber had, 5 to 10 rounds at the bench was not intolerable.  The .300 Weatherby was a Sauer-built Mark V with a skinny 24" barrel and it kicked noticeably harder than the Kimber, although the stock helped a lot. If I'd been offered the opportunity to hunt game worthy of a .30 magnum, and could have afforded to go, I would have considered myself ready to take either. 

Neither of these .30 magnums produced the recoil my .375 H & H Model 70 delivers. I bought it for fun. If I were going to hunt with it, I would have to do what I've suggested and work up. 

The last prices I saw on Midway were from about $108 to $160 for 20 rounds. Lots of makers, including our domestics. Hornady, Federal, Nosler, and several other brands were in stock. Remington, Swift and Buffalo Bore were out of stock. Bottom line: If you can afford six bucks a  bang, the premium stuff is yours to order. 

Mike

iamdman9545 said
Hi guys.
Great feedback.  As far as Bass goes, I've bought many guns from them.  They ship for free to your local store and you're able to take a pass on it if the condition is worse than expected.  I noticed on Guns International there is a lag in their listings and many times the guns are sold shortly after the listing even goes up so I don't think anything scam like from that.
Seeing the listing on Merz is making me feel pretty good on the $750.  I can always add period correct sights later.  Can work on getting the stock finish back closer to original with a coat of Linseed oil.
Looking forward to seeing it in person.
Either way, I don't think I'd be out any money if I wound up selling it in the future.
Thanks.
Stephen
  

Well ? Did you get it ? Bore condition ? Pictures ?

It was too bad the Model 88 and later 100 were designed when the Commercial Gun Department was under pressure to cut costs. Lots of labor trouble and Olin Mathiesen wasn't helping by making a series of bad acquisitions and spinoffs. 

I've owned a 1955 Model 88 and a 1960 Model 100 and liked them both - took several Whitetails with the 88. Both rifles were .308 caliber. But each had an inexplicable flaw that made it awkward and, I think, hurt sales. Neither was priced as a bargain rifle. 

In both models, the trigger design, as I understand it, uses the trigger return spring in a manner preventing a decent trigger pull. Creepy and soft. There are custom 88s with substitute triggers that eliminate this issue, but not for the average deer hunter. EDIT: A LARGE PART OF THE TRIGGER FEEL IS DUE TO DIVIDING THE FIRE CONTROL ASSEMBLY INTO TWO PARTS, ONE OF WHICH MOVES AS PART OF THE LEVER, IN AND OUT OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE OTHER PART. The design features deep sear engagement to prevent jarring the hammer off the sear when the action is worked violently. 

And the 100 needed a bolt hold-open device and manual release. The market was used to this on automatic shotguns and the Remington competition 740.

At the time these rifle actions were designed, the Model 1907 trigger/magazine group had already been used almost intact in the M1 Carbine and the trigger group used for the Model 50 automatic shotgun. Most think it was the best semiautomatic trigger to be had. I can only assume it was internal jealousies or cost-cutting not to employ it. 

Even Jack O'Connor liked the Model 100 in 308 as a woods rifle and had one for awhile. There is a photo of him shooting one that was published in at least one of his books. 

Just my thoughts anyways

88

Zebulon said
The stock on the rifle that is third from the bottom is not a carbine stock. It is a standard Model 88 rifle stock. The forearm is not milled for a carbine barrel band nor does it have a barrel band. 
Could you please photograph the muzzle end of the barrel close enough to see the front sight and its ramp. 
Is there any feature of this rifle other than length of barrel that indicates the barrel is a factory carbine barrel rather than a rifle barrel that has been cut back, re-crowned, and had the sight ramp sweated to the shortened barrel? 
  

I’ll let you know after I visit him tomorrow 😁

He has other guns that are way more desirable to me than this one…..😉

Could you please photograph the muzzle end of the barrel close enough to see the front sight and its ramp. 

Is there any feature of this rifle other than length of barrel that indicates the barrel is a factory carbine barrel rather than a rifle barrel that has been cut back, re-crowned, and had the sight ramp sweated to the shortened barrel? 

Zebulon said
I see 7 items in the photograph, of which 6 are Winchester Model.88s. Of the 6, I see only 3 with carbine barrel bands and none of the 3 appear to have checkered stocks. The photograph does not show full barrel lengths. 
The third from the bottom is a rifle, not a carbine. Does it have a shorter than standard length (22") barrel? 
  

Yes, it has the carbine length barrel.

I’ll get some better photos tomorrow.

My question is….would a hand checkered 88 carbine have possibly come directly from Winchester?

The third from the bottom is a rifle, not a carbine. Does it have a shorter than standard length (22") barrel? 

He had a high condition model 88 in both Rifle and carbine in every caliber.  I’ve purchased a couple of the rifles already, but he has one carbine that sits in a hand checkered stock.  Is there any way this could be factory correct?  Everything that I can find on the 88 carbine has no mention of hand checkering.  Possible to special order?  If so, would there be any way to validate?  This is the only photo I have…. The carbine is third from the bottom.  I’ll take a closer look and more photos tomorrow.

Thanks