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                    <title>Bert H. on 1892 Shotgun butt stock and 2/3 mag?</title>
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<strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
Burt, nice letter.  What is meant by "Winchester high velocity"?<br />
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<p>The "Winchester high velocity" indicates that the barrel was Nickel Steel versus the standard high strength steel, and that the sights were regulated for smokeless powder versus the standard black powder sights.  Usually, the entry in the ledgers was "W.H.V."</p>
<p>This is an example:</p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 18:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 1892 Shotgun butt stock and 2/3 mag?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Burt, nice letter.  What is meant by "Winchester high velocity"?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 17:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Model 70 factory question</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
 A 2 minute rifle will easily stay within an 8 inch circle at 400 yards. Four hundred yards is just one hell of a long way to be shooting at a live, unwounded game animal. <br />
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<p>I believe if you have a good rifle and load and <strong>you have practiced at 400 yds or further,</strong> 400 yds is not too far.  Most hunting rifles can shoot well out to 400 yds.  I don't hunt anymore but I do shoot way farther than 400 yds every week.  I'd feel comfortable beyond 400. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>R.Marshall on correct checkering for a 1907 Winchester model 1894?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I thought the forend looked correct for a full deluxe rifle and the pistol grip looked like a cross between the I and H pattern. The wood looks to be upgraded to deluxe. I'll have it in my hands this evening. Maybe kill a deer with it later this season. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on correct checkering for a 1907 Winchester model 1894?</title>
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<strong>tionesta1 (AL) said </strong><br />
The pistol grip looks like the I checkering pattern, but the forend is not a factory pattern.<br />
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<p>This is factory I-pattern on a pistol grip... noticeably less total coverage.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1440" data-height="433" title="I-Pattern-checkering.jpg" alt="I-Pattern-checkering.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/I-Pattern-checkering.jpg" /></p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 16:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Model 70 Varmint on GB Questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark-</p>
<p>The factory would fit Super Grade style detachable sling swivel bases on special order.  When they did, they installed the front swivel base like they did on a Super Grade, meaning that two knurled nuts were set into the barrel channel for the base machine screws, and there is no center hole and inletting for the standard sling swivel.  It's easy to see if you can pull the barreled action out of the stock.</p>
<p>The SG butt stock swivel base was positioned such that the eye of the swivel base sat in the same place as the fixed loop of the standard swivel.  Most people adding SG bases to an existing standard stock would use the existing hole as either the front or back hole for the two SG base screws.  The result is that the SG base is either too far forward or too far back, which is obvious.  If they positioned the swivel base correctly, drilling two new holes, there is a vacant hole in the center that shouldn't be there if it was a factory job.  You'd have to remove the swivel base and look.</p>
<p>It is possible to find M70 standard grade rifles or Featherweights with factory SG swivel bases.  It's just that most were installed aftermarket. </p>
<p>Lou  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 14:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tionesta1 (AL) on correct checkering for a 1907 Winchester model 1894?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The pistol grip looks like the I checkering pattern, but the forend is not a factory pattern.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 12:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>R.Marshall on correct checkering for a 1907 Winchester model 1894?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'll take some better pictures once I have it. Thanks </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 11:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 70 factory question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Standard or Featherweight style that will consistently shoot into less than 2 MOA is all one should reasonably expect, although with extensive load development and [in the case of the Standard rifle] varying barrel tension with the provided screw may yield somewhat tighter groups. Some people have found floating the barrel reduces group size. I think a consistent 1 MOA rifle is rare. </p>
<p>The 1964 Model 70, for all its cosmetic faults, is provably more accurate out of the box. The barrel is floated and the action is stiffer. </p>
<p>The pre-64 and later versions of the Model 70 are more than accurate enough as hunting rifles in any reasonable circumstances. They are capable out of the box of far more inherent accuracy than nine out of ten hunters are capable of reaching, much less exceeding. A 2 minute rifle will easily stay within an 8 inch circle at 400 yards. Four hundred yards is just one hell of a long way to be shooting at a live, unwounded game animal. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 05:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on 1892 Shotgun butt stock and 2/3 mag?</title>
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<p>Burt Humphrey said<br />
This one is pretty unique with the rifle butt, capped pistol grip, full magazine and in great original condition.<br />
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<p>Very nice Burt. Pretty sure I hadn't seen the configuration before. What cal. Is it?<br />
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 03:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MarkGK on Model 70 Varmint on GB Questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lou, I should have known that was not a varmint barrel, I was going by what the seller wrote.  A while ago I seen a Featherweight with SG swivels also. Interesting.. </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 02:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Darrin Smith on 1892 Shotgun butt stock and 2/3 mag?</title>
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<p><strong>Burt Humphrey said </strong><br />
This one is pretty unique with the rifle butt, capped pistol grip, full magazine and in great original condition.</p>
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<p>Very nice Burt. Pretty sure I hadn't seen the configuration before. What cal. Is it?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 01:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Model 70 Varmint on GB Questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi MarkGK-</p>
<p>That is a 220 Swift Standard (not Varmint) rifle.  Standard contour, not Medium Heavy, barrel.  Hence the forearm screw is factory. The 220 Swift was added to the Varmint rifle in 1959, but it was available in the Standard rifle throughout this time.</p>
<p>The SG swivels are probably added aftermarket...  There are ways of determining this, but they require seeing the barrel channel with the action removed and/or the butt stock swivel base be removed...</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 01:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MarkGK on Model 70 Varmint on GB Questions</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was watching this Model 70 220 Swift on GB #1207603573. It has a standard stock and inlet with super grade swivels. Sooo, is this factory or non factory ? I also understand there should be no forearm screw but this does have it. I can see someone switching stocks but the standard stock being inlet for the super grade swivels has me puzzled.  Any help ???</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 00:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Agent1911 on 1892 Shotgun butt stock and 2/3 mag?</title>
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<p><strong>Chris D said </strong><br />
Show us the lower tang. You cannot get a letter showing its configuration, ony serial number date<br />
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 23:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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