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                    <title>Zebulon on Seeking advice on new rifle and site options. </title>
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<p><strong>Buckums said </strong><br />
Thanks for all of the info here.   I will post this in the Swap Meet section, but please let me know if anyone can help me source a Redfield 80W.   Thanks again.<br />
Trey<br />
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<p>Trey,  a lot of these micrometer sights are regularly traded on eBay.  If you can find one on swapmeet it will likely be cheaper but I would keep a weather eye on eBay.</p>
<p>I had to buy my Redfield 80.coded for a Model 86/71 on eBay and had to win a bidding war to get it. As I recall,  it cost me $375 plus shipping and tax and that was at least 15 to 20 years ago. </p>
<p>I would guess the W code sights are much more common but the eBay market is principally a market for <em>collectors </em>of these sights, which increases buyer competition and price. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>They are in the same category as a Winchester Modei 55 or 64 with a non-factory, full coverage engraving job by the late E. C. Prudhomme, with gold wire inlays. </p>
<p>Such a thing is <em>sui generis- so </em>unique it can't be grouped with anything else. Like the <em>Mona Lisa. </em></p>
<p>Specimens of Biesen and Goudy based on Winchester rifles and shotguns appeal to two groups, almost all Winchester collectors and experienced sportsmen who admire the best American custom rifle work. </p>
<p>In my opinion - and I've held several Biesen rifles in my hands but never have been fortunate enough to own one -- Al's specialty was building the finest hunting rifles <em>that were actually made to be used. </em>There is nothing frail or fragile about them nor do they exhibit the effete contours especially executed solely to show off the skill of the maker - something seen too often at shows of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild. I have read some members of that group believe Biesen could not have qualified for membership. The tail has begun to wag the dog. </p>
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                    <title>Buckums on Seeking advice on new rifle and site options. </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of the info here.   I will post this in the Swap Meet section, but please let me know if anyone can help me source a Redfield 80W.   Thanks again.</p>
<p>Trey</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 14:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Doug.... you better get to work getting that kitchen finished now, your better half might loose patience if you keep getting distracted!  You can expect a call from me soon to discuss this latest Karma blessing. 🙂</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  Seems to me period custom work should be a legitimate collector category. A bit hard to establish parameters maybe but they deserve recognition for their part in Winchester's history. Maybe not, but they make excellent eye candy!</p>
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                    <title>twobit on Did anyone get this decent Model 1892 Rifle in .32-20?</title>
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<p><strong>mrcvs said </strong><br />
I like it because it has the Lyman 21 sight, is full octagon with half magazine, and has fairly good condition.  It is 1924 production, and so cannot letter, An added bonus is the globe front sight.  Pre auction estimate was $1800 to $2400, which seems reasonable.  Hammered at $2800, with buyer’s premium, that’s $3136.  Plus shipping and FFL fees.  Certainly not outrageous, but I was hoping to get it in the $2200 or under range.<br />
Not as desirable being .32-20, so I thought it would, and should, go fairly low.<br />
I have several hundred rounds of .32-20 brass ready to load, but I guess I can’t just blow the dust off that yet.<br />
i can’t seem to download the photographs, so here’s the original listing.<br />
<a href="https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990</a><br />
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<p>That is a darn nice looking rifle.   There is MAYBE just the VERY slightest amount of bluing wear on the top barrel flat that might make you think that there had been a standard rear sight on the gun at one time???  But beyond that it looks like it was carried a few times and then pretty much not touched for the past 102 years!  congrats to whoever got it.  Based on what I have seen a POS rifle sells in the $700 to $900 range so a $2000 premium for a gun that will be hard  to improve on is not bad.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 11:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>GGeorgsson on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
Georg.  In your neck of the woods 25-35 wcf is known as 6.5X52R.   I’ve read it’s still popular in Europe, RIA calls it desirable in their auction descriptions.<br />
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<p>Ahaaaa..  Thanks for the info.  Yes, I have heard of that caliber.  it was, just like the 5.6x52R (22 Savage HP) quite popular in combis and drillings.</p>
<p>However, it is harder to find 6.5X52R ammo than 5.6X52R</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 11:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!  You didn't say anything about the Biesen's!  Color me GREEN with envy!  Congratulations my friend.... 🙂  <br />
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<p>Ben, there were two more Biesens that I could not loop into the deal. </p>
<p> A sweet 7 X 57 and a 308 featherweight that was just sexy <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Kiss" alt="Kiss" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-kiss.gif" /></p>
<p>I was not the first guy on the scene so i can only imagine what went before me<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cry" alt="Cry" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cry.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!  You didn't say anything about the Biesen's!  Color me GREEN with envy!  Congratulations my friend.... 🙂  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This was not a Cody score per say but a score that was developing while at Cody</p>
<p>3 Al Biesen customs 270, 338, and a 375 </p>
<p>1 Gary Goudy in 375</p>
<p> I know that some will say they are not original to their as built design but some will appreciate the work of a couple of the great custom builders.</p>
<p>I did already own the 270 but I felt it needed to be with its friends.</p>
<p>Ben will feel the love <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>Lou I will get you the data sheets soon.</p>
<p> Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Did anyone get this decent Model 1892 Rifle in .32-20?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I like it because it has the Lyman 21 sight, is full octagon with half magazine, and has fairly good condition.  It is 1924 production, and so cannot letter, An added bonus is the globe front sight.  Pre auction estimate was $1800 to $2400, which seems reasonable.  Hammered at $2800, with buyer’s premium, that’s $3136.  Plus shipping and FFL fees.  Certainly not outrageous, but I was hoping to get it in the $2200 or under range.</p>
<p>Not as desirable being .32-20, so I thought it would, and should, go fairly low.</p>
<p>I have several hundred rounds of .32-20 brass ready to load, but I guess I can’t just blow the dust off that yet.</p>
<p>i can’t seem to download the photographs, so here’s the original listing.</p>
<p><a href="https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990</a></p>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Georg.  In your neck of the woods 25-35 wcf is known as 6.5X52R.   I’ve read it’s still popular in Europe, RIA calls it desirable in their auction descriptions.</p>
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                    <title>DDUB on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert, just sent some pictures. thanks for checking them out.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 21:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Send pictures of the gun to me via email</p>
<p>Bert - <a href="mailto:win1885@msn.com" target="_blank">win1885@msn.com</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DDUB on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>i have a 1952 (SR #1868188) Winchester Model 94 in great shape but my research indicates they were only made with forged steel blued receivers and handles. Mine has a forged receiver but it appears to be brass along with the lever handle and the trim. The receiver has the screw in the bottom just like the forged steel ones that i have seen online. i think my granddad might have made a special order for, i know he is the only one to have ever owned the gun.</p>
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