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                    <title>88 man on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion someone's put a rifle stock on it. Easiest way to tell is take the action out of the stock and see if there's 2 dovetails up front under the stock. Rifle and carbine stocks are not interchangeable and this must be done to put a rifle stock on a carbine. The other option is make a new hole in the front of the stock where the front bolts on. Best bet take the action out of the stock and you'll know for sure. I have seen this done a few times it's easier to find a rifle stock than a carbine stock</p>
<p>Just my thoughts anyways</p>
<p>88</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
The stock on the rifle that is third from the bottom is not a carbine stock. It is a standard Model 88 rifle stock. The forearm is not milled for a carbine barrel band nor does it have a barrel band. <br />
Could you please photograph the muzzle end of the barrel close enough to see the front sight and its ramp. <br />
Is there any feature of this rifle other than length of barrel that indicates the barrel is a factory carbine barrel rather than a rifle barrel that has been cut back, re-crowned, and had the sight ramp sweated to the shortened barrel? <br />
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<p>I’ll let you know after I visit him tomorrow 😁</p>
<p>He has other guns that are way more desirable to me than this one…..😉</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The stock on the rifle that is third from the bottom is not a carbine stock. It is a standard Model 88 rifle stock. The forearm is not milled for a carbine barrel band nor does it have a barrel band. </p>
<p>Could you please photograph the muzzle end of the barrel close enough to see the front sight and its ramp. </p>
<p>Is there any feature of this rifle other than length of barrel that indicates the barrel is a factory carbine barrel rather than a rifle barrel that has been cut back, re-crowned, and had the sight ramp sweated to the shortened barrel? </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 15:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
I see 7 items in the photograph, of which 6 are Winchester Model.88s. Of the 6, I see only 3 with carbine barrel bands and none of the 3 appear to have checkered stocks. The photograph does not show full barrel lengths. <br />
The third from the bottom is a rifle, not a carbine. Does it have a shorter than standard length (22") barrel? <br />
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<p>Yes, it has the carbine length barrel.</p>
<p>I’ll get some better photos tomorrow.</p>
<p>My question is….would a hand checkered 88 carbine have possibly come directly from Winchester?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 15:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I see 7 items in the photograph, of which 6 are Winchester Model.88s. Of the 6, I see only 3 with carbine barrel bands and none of the 3 appear to have checkered stocks. The photograph does not show full barrel lengths. </p>
<p>The third from the bottom is a rifle, not a carbine. Does it have a shorter than standard length (22") barrel? </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Model 88 carbine question….</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’m going to visit a friend tomorrow, and I hope to bring home some new additions to my collection.  He’s in his mid 80s and has been a “quiet” Winchesters collector for years.  Many of  my higher quality pieces were owned by him.</p>
<p>He had a high condition model 88 in both Rifle and carbine in every caliber.  I’ve purchased a couple of the rifles already, but he has one carbine that sits in a hand checkered stock.  Is there any way this could be factory correct?  Everything that I can find on the 88 carbine has no mention of hand checkering.  Possible to special order?  If so, would there be any way to validate?  This is the only photo I have…. The carbine is third from the bottom.  I’ll take a closer look and more photos tomorrow.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 13:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>88 man on Winchester Model 100 Documentary </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I was sent this documentary from a friend. I've been collecting the 88 and 100 rifles for about 40 years or so. As I watched the video at about 1 1/2 - 2  minutes to the end I was a bit blown away. There was a pic of my gun room ! I had posted the pic on and Winchester Model 88 and 100 FB site that I'm a moderator quite a while back and this guy used it in his documentary.  Needless to say it made me feel a little warm and fuzzy inside 😂  Just thought I'd share it here <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D7vwaaDGu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D7vwaaDGu/</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 04:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am certainly not as eloquent as Zebulon Esquire but agree with his premise.  In my Engineering "if-then" statement layman's terms; "If you are going to buy a pig-in-a-poke, then poke the pig."</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 03:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A chamber cast will not only tell to what cartridge the gunsmith (hopefully) tried to rechamber the barrel but how successful he was at the job. </p>
<p>If the barrel is original to the rifle and the receiver is a pre-64 Model 70 showing the milling marks in the bridge and ring indicating it was a 300 Holland when it left New Haven, almost certainly the chamber was reamed to at least approximate a 300 Weatherby Magnum chamber. </p>
<p>There are things to know about that job only a chamber cast can tell you. First, how close are the dimensions to the SAAMI standard for the cartridge. Weatherby was at one time NOT a SAAMI cartridge and different gunsmiths had varying ideas about how much or how little freebore would be a good idea. Not all gunsmiths bothered to pay for the custom reamer that would cut the radiused Weatherby shoulder. </p>
<p>If you buy this rifle, before you fire a current factory 300 Weatherby Magnum - or any other - round in it, you absolutely must have a chamber cast made and measured.</p>
<p>With all due respect for the Model 70, of which I own and shoot several, it is NOT a Weatherby Mark V and will not handle 60,000+ psi gas escaping from a burst brass case very safely. </p>
<p>Your eyes are worth far more than the price of a chamber cast. I can get one for less than a hundred bucks. Yours may be more or less. But factor it into the price of the gun. </p>
<p>Speaking only for myself, I would not buy the gun without an agreement to rescind if the chamber should be weird as cut. If you are going to buy a pig in a poke, get a warranty of the pig's breed. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 02:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the relative case dimensions the H&#038;H conversion to the Weatherby cartridge, Lou's theory makes the most sense. The 300 Winchester Magnum uses a shorter cartridge case and OAL than the 300 H&#038;H. The WBY case and OAL are longer than the H&#038;H, it's easier to make a chamber longer than to make it shorter. A bore scope may give you a few clues but a chamber cast and/or Go/No go gauges would tell you what you are looking at. Seller may not know what he has.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Uplander-</p>
<p>Is there a link to the GB listing?</p>
<p>Odds are that the "W" stands for "Weatherby" and that it's a rechambered 300 H&#038;H Magnum.  The 300 Winchester Magnum was not released until 1963.  A photo of the top of the action would tell if it's an H&#038;H action or not.  If it's not an H&#038;H action, then it may have been a standard action converted to short magnum.  But those were usually done either by rechambering a 30-06 barrel (that was marked "30-06 SPFLD") or by putting a 1963 barrel in 300 WIN MAGNUM on a converted standard action.</p>
<p>This barrel "300 XXX MAGNUM" was once marked "300 H&#038;H MAGNUM" in style 3C.  Too long a cartridge to convert to 300 Winchester Magnum.  </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I will agree with Tim that a chamber casting is the smart thing to do </p>
<p> That being said I have purchased three M70s over time that were originally 300 H&#038;H that had been rechambered to 300 WBY.</p>
<p> Other may correct me here but to get it to 300 WIN MAG would require shortening the chamber and then reaming to 300 WM.</p>
<p> A quick test would be to chamber a 300HH cartridge, If it chambers it is likely HH if it doesent ....??</p>
<p>The script of the "W" looks somewhat Weatherby ish.</p>
<p> Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Only casting the chamber can solve this mystery.  A goodly number of the 300 H&#038;H magnums were converted to 300 Weatherby magnum as well.  Obviously, for safety's sake, I would not fire it before having a gunsmith determine what the rifle is now chambered to shoot. This is not a matter I would take someone else's word for.</p>
<p>BRP</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Uplander on 1955 model 70 300 winmag  or ?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>So was looking at purchasing this 1955model 70 on gunbroker but question is .....it is listed as a 300 winmag ( but pre 63 release date) could it be a 300 H&#038;H that had "H&#038;H" milled off and "W" put on ? </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 19:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Jennings Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I too, thought of the Bullard repeating action as soon as I saw it.</p>
<p>I've seen a few Jennings rifles over the years but never had a clue about the inner workings of the action.  I found it fascinating.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting Mark!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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