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Bert H. on Model 70. 1936 or 1937 ? #2318

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 23:29:11 +0000

September 1936.

Bert

Jim F in CT on Trying to determine . . . .

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 23:28:47 +0000

OK! Gents . . . .Thank You!

Burt Humphrey on Trying to determine . . . .

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 23:16:06 +0000

Bert H. said
Jim,
The levers, hammers, and crescent butt plates were case color finished up through 1914, so Yes, the lever on your 1908 production Model 1894 is case color finished.
Bert

good example - see hammer and lever.

BriMac on Model 70. 1936 or 1937 ? #2318

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 23:12:13 +0000

I purchased this a few months ago at a local gun shop and during my research to find the approximate year of manufacturing it comes back 1936 or 1937 due to the lack of Factory records Feed back welcome

Bert H. on Trying to determine . . . .

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 22:59:02 +0000

Jim,

The levers, hammers, and crescent butt plates were case color finished up through 1914, so Yes, the lever on your 1908 production Model 1894 is case color finished.

Bert

Jim F in CT on Trying to determine . . . .

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 21:47:32 +0000

. . . .if the lever on my old, 1908-era M’94 rifle is color case hardened.

Under certain lighting (bright sunlight) it appears to be so . . . .though more than a bit faded.

Anyone ever see case hardened colors on old “standard, non-optioned” levers on Winchester M’94s?

(Wish I could post pictures)

Thanks, —Jim

Bert H. on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 19:11:33 +0000

BillWyo said
Bert, I know if anyone could find how many Single Shot rifles were shipped to Ogden you can do that. When I get the 1885 in hand I will post pictures of the stampings. I know from your posts that if ending only has the U, then if after statehood. Before that it would be U.T. Thanks again; Bill

Is the barrel marked "40-70 S.S." or "40-70 SHARPS STR." ?

BillWyo on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 19:06:20 +0000

Bert, I know if anyone could find how many Single Shot rifles were shipped to Ogden you can do that. When I get the 1885 in hand I will post pictures of the stampings. I know from your posts that if ending only has the U, then if after statehood. Before that it would be U.T. Thanks again; Bill

Robo3d on Model 94 butt stock to metal gap.

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 02:58:58 +0000

Agree. Thank you for input.

Bert H. on Model 94 butt stock to metal gap.

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 02:05:12 +0000

The stocks are not original to gun. Somebody installed the poorly fitting wood on it after they had it engraved and refinished.

Bert

Robo3d on Model 94 butt stock to metal gap.

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 01:59:53 +0000

Good evening all. I am a new member and I am wandering what your thoughts are on the gap between my butt stock and receiver. It is about .015" on sides and up tight on upper and lower tangs. The fore end is also up tight.

Bert H. on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 01:57:46 +0000

BillWyo said
Bert, I'm so glad you answered my post. I have been reading your posts for a long time, you do a wonderful job. I thought for a real 1885 at the very low price I paid there was a problem. In fact I have been wanting a 1885 in 45-70 for years and could never come up with the $$$$. I will have a 40-70 Browning Brothers 28" barrel to sell in a few weeks. Your information was a great help. I'm very happy. Thanks; Bill

I have identified at least six different Single Shot order numbers that were shipped to the Browning Bothers as patent payment rifles. I am still attempting to determine exactly how many Single Shot rifles were shipped to Ogden.

Bert

BillWyo on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 01:24:03 +0000

Bert, I'm so glad you answered my post. I have been reading your posts for a long time, you do a wonderful job. I thought for a real 1885 at the very low price I paid there was a problem. In fact I have been wanting a 1885 in 45-70 for years and could never come up with the $$$$. I will have a 40-70 Browning Brothers 28" barrel to sell in a few weeks. Your information was a great help. I'm very happy. Thanks; Bill

Anthony #5411 on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Sat, 07 Nov 2026 00:04:49 +0000

Bill,

You can take Bert's well surveyed and documented information to the Bank! I have and he hasn't proven me wrong yet, and I know he won't!

Tony

Bert H. on Question on Cody Letters and Browning Brothers Shipments

Fri, 06 Nov 2026 23:41:34 +0000

Bill,

Some might say that I may know a bit about the Winchester Single Shot (a.k.a. Model 1885) rifles.

To start this off, s/n 22154 was not manufactured and shipped as a 40-70 S.S. As originally manufactured, it was a 45-70 with a 32-inch No. 3 octagon barrel. It was not ever returned for an R & R, which indicates that it was not rebarreled by Winchester.

In answer to your question about shipping destinations, it is extremely rare to find a record with that information.

Bert