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                    <title>TXGunNut on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  Seems to me period custom work should be a legitimate collector category. A bit hard to establish parameters maybe but they deserve recognition for their part in Winchester's history. Maybe not, but they make excellent eye candy!</p>
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                    <title>twobit on Did anyone get this decent Model 1892 Rifle in .32-20?</title>
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<p><strong>mrcvs said </strong><br />
I like it because it has the Lyman 21 sight, is full octagon with half magazine, and has fairly good condition.  It is 1924 production, and so cannot letter, An added bonus is the globe front sight.  Pre auction estimate was $1800 to $2400, which seems reasonable.  Hammered at $2800, with buyer’s premium, that’s $3136.  Plus shipping and FFL fees.  Certainly not outrageous, but I was hoping to get it in the $2200 or under range.<br />
Not as desirable being .32-20, so I thought it would, and should, go fairly low.<br />
I have several hundred rounds of .32-20 brass ready to load, but I guess I can’t just blow the dust off that yet.<br />
i can’t seem to download the photographs, so here’s the original listing.<br />
<a href="https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990</a><br />
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<p>That is a darn nice looking rifle.   There is MAYBE just the VERY slightest amount of bluing wear on the top barrel flat that might make you think that there had been a standard rear sight on the gun at one time???  But beyond that it looks like it was carried a few times and then pretty much not touched for the past 102 years!  congrats to whoever got it.  Based on what I have seen a POS rifle sells in the $700 to $900 range so a $2000 premium for a gun that will be hard  to improve on is not bad.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 11:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>GGeorgsson on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
Georg.  In your neck of the woods 25-35 wcf is known as 6.5X52R.   I’ve read it’s still popular in Europe, RIA calls it desirable in their auction descriptions.<br />
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<p>Ahaaaa..  Thanks for the info.  Yes, I have heard of that caliber.  it was, just like the 5.6x52R (22 Savage HP) quite popular in combis and drillings.</p>
<p>However, it is harder to find 6.5X52R ammo than 5.6X52R</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 11:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!  You didn't say anything about the Biesen's!  Color me GREEN with envy!  Congratulations my friend.... 🙂  <br />
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<p>Ben, there were two more Biesens that I could not loop into the deal. </p>
<p> A sweet 7 X 57 and a 308 featherweight that was just sexy <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Kiss" alt="Kiss" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-kiss.gif" /></p>
<p>I was not the first guy on the scene so i can only imagine what went before me<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cry" alt="Cry" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cry.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!  You didn't say anything about the Biesen's!  Color me GREEN with envy!  Congratulations my friend.... 🙂  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This was not a Cody score per say but a score that was developing while at Cody</p>
<p>3 Al Biesen customs 270, 338, and a 375 </p>
<p>1 Gary Goudy in 375</p>
<p> I know that some will say they are not original to their as built design but some will appreciate the work of a couple of the great custom builders.</p>
<p>I did already own the 270 but I felt it needed to be with its friends.</p>
<p>Ben will feel the love <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>Lou I will get you the data sheets soon.</p>
<p> Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Did anyone get this decent Model 1892 Rifle in .32-20?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I like it because it has the Lyman 21 sight, is full octagon with half magazine, and has fairly good condition.  It is 1924 production, and so cannot letter, An added bonus is the globe front sight.  Pre auction estimate was $1800 to $2400, which seems reasonable.  Hammered at $2800, with buyer’s premium, that’s $3136.  Plus shipping and FFL fees.  Certainly not outrageous, but I was hoping to get it in the $2200 or under range.</p>
<p>Not as desirable being .32-20, so I thought it would, and should, go fairly low.</p>
<p>I have several hundred rounds of .32-20 brass ready to load, but I guess I can’t just blow the dust off that yet.</p>
<p>i can’t seem to download the photographs, so here’s the original listing.</p>
<p><a href="https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://cwocauctions.proxibid.com/Winchester-Model-1892-Lever-Action-Rifle/lotInformation/101694990</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 00:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Georg.  In your neck of the woods 25-35 wcf is known as 6.5X52R.   I’ve read it’s still popular in Europe, RIA calls it desirable in their auction descriptions.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 23:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DDUB on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert, just sent some pictures. thanks for checking them out.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 21:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Send pictures of the gun to me via email</p>
<p>Bert - <a href="mailto:win1885@msn.com" target="_blank">win1885@msn.com</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DDUB on pre 64 Model 94</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>i have a 1952 (SR #1868188) Winchester Model 94 in great shape but my research indicates they were only made with forged steel blued receivers and handles. Mine has a forged receiver but it appears to be brass along with the lever handle and the trim. The receiver has the screw in the bottom just like the forged steel ones that i have seen online. i think my granddad might have made a special order for, i know he is the only one to have ever owned the gun.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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<strong><a href="mailto:fred.lasor@gmail.com" target="_blank">fred.lasor@gmail.com</a> said </strong><br />
If one were to "create" a rifle to match a letter, would it not destroy a seller's reputation beyond repair if the original surfaced?  Seems like you'd have to be pretty certain the original would never surface.  Just sayin'.<br />
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<p>This particular seller may not be aware of the issues noted in the above posts. I don't know if this rifle is in Madl's survey. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>fred.lasor@gmail.com on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If one were to "create" a rifle to match a letter, would it not destroy a seller's reputation beyond repair if the original surfaced?  Seems like you'd have to be pretty certain the original would never surface.  Just sayin'.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Burt Humphrey on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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<p>Mark Douglas said<br />
I'm in agreement with Rick and Bill.<br />
In addition to having gone through a recent mediocre restoration, retaining 0% original finish and having a new barrel installed, the serial number appears to have been hand stamped with an incorrect font and poor spacing.  The 0, 2 and especially the 7 are quite a lot different. Winchester serial numbers from this timeframe were typically much more evenly spaced and aligned.  Here's an example of a serial number from an 1886 from the same timeframe in my collection for comparison:<br />
It certainly raises the question of whether or not this was the original serial number applied to this tang.  Mark<br />
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<p>Now that you point that out…<br />
Makes me suspect the rifle was created to match the letter.<br />
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<p>In additon to the issues noted by Mark regarding the serial number stamping, the caliber stamping is far too pronounced - looks like it was done yesterday. I think Lan's comment about building a gun to match a letter might be spot-on. The big 50's are rare - only 331 made. Anyone interested in them should read the article written by Jim Paul (now decerased) and Tom Adams for the summer 2012 edition of the Collector magazine.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>fred.lasor@gmail.com on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see an 1886 in 50-100-450 that has NOT been restored, Mark posted a nice video on mine a couple of weeks ago.  Nothing on mine has been changed since I bought it in 1967.  Here's Mark's video.  Fred. Oops!  I see Mark beat me to it!</p>
<p>t=2s</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 17:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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