Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Rifles

twobit on 94 deluxe on GB

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:10:28 +0000

My money says non original wood. The wood finish is TOO perfect compared to the wear on the receiver. Someplace there HAD to be a bump or scratch put in the wood. The butt plate fit is terrible.

Michael

King Medallion on 94 deluxe on GB

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 14:01:02 +0000

The wood to metal fit isn't very good, looks like to me. Replacement wood I'd bet. Still a beauty.

Henry Mero on 94 deluxe on GB

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:52:38 +0000

Going by the pictures it looks as though the stocks,especially the butt stock, are replacements, at the very least "refinished". However , nowhere did I read the seller describing them as original to the gun or original finish. Just My take on it,and I'm not good at interpriting pictures.

helidriver72 on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:42:56 +0000

Bert H. said
Gus,
The sling eyes are definitely aftermarket additions.
Bert

Just curious what indicates that to you? I’m not disagreeing I’m just trying to learn.

helidriver72 on 94 deluxe on GB

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:37:04 +0000

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1209538792

stocks look refinished and checkering recut to me but I wanted your guys opinion?

Green River Gus on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 22:29:44 +0000

Thanks Bert!

Bert H. on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 21:28:12 +0000

Gus,

The sling eyes are definitely aftermarket additions.

Bert

Bryan Austin on The Doc Pardee Club, still looking for....

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 20:06:11 +0000

steve004 said

Bryan Austin said

steve004 said
I see the Remington-Keene is on the above list?


That is correct. If you have one, or have an original conversion to 44-40 (for whatever reason)....it is a custom. I have no idea why...but it is what it is...according to Lyman's 49th. I have never seen evidence of one.


Interesting. I do have a Remington-Keene, and as to chambering, it is simply (factory) marked ".433". I wouldn't doubt some of my various .44-40's have a bore diameter that mics to .433, however my Keene is in fact a .43 Spanish. I have never heard of one in .44-40. Given the other chamberings in the Keene were .45-70 and .40-65, I have difficulty picturing how one could be converted to .44-40. But if there is one, I'd love to see it.

That would be my thinking as well. If I had to convert one, I think there are better choices than the 44-40.

Green River Gus on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 19:20:11 +0000

Bert,

I misread the factory letter. It wasn't returned to the factory for the buttplate conversion. It was done before it left the factory. See attached photo.

Thanks,

Gus

Green River Gus on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 19:12:05 +0000

Bert,

The measurement from the crescent butt plate to the center of the sling eye is 6-3/8". There are marks stamped into the underside of the barrel (see photos). Underneath the flat v-type carrier spring is stamped a small heart, a small triangle, the letters NS (nickel steel?), the number "3", and a capital letter "H".

Thanks,

Gus

steve004 on The Doc Pardee Club, still looking for....

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 18:24:29 +0000

Bryan Austin said

steve004 said
I see the Remington-Keene is on the above list?


That is correct. If you have one, or have an original conversion to 44-40 (for whatever reason)....it is a custom. I have no idea why...but it is what it is...according to Lyman's 49th. I have never seen evidence of one.

Interesting. I do have a Remington-Keene, and as to chambering, it is simply (factory) marked ".433". I wouldn't doubt some of my various .44-40's have a bore diameter that mics to .433, however my Keene is in fact a .43 Spanish. I have never heard of one in .44-40. Given the other chamberings in the Keene were .45-70 and .40-65, I have difficulty picturing how one could be converted to .44-40. But if there is one, I'd love to see it.

Bert H. on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 18:17:41 +0000

Gus,

Does it have a crescent butt? What is the exact distance from the butt to the center of the rear sling eye? Have you pulled the fore end stock off and checked the bottom of the barrel for a work order number?

Bert

Green River Gus on Model 1895 Sling Swivels

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 17:21:07 +0000

I have a1903 vintage Model 1895, .30 US, that has fish hook style sling swivels. The front swivel mount is dovetailed into the bottom of the rifle's barrel. The rear swivel mount is threaded into a threaded metal grommet inletted into the stock. I have a factory letter for the rifle, but it doesn't mention the swivels. Any opinions on whether these are factory? Also, the factory letter states that the rifle returned to the factory in 1904 to have a shotgun butt replaced with a crescent butt plate.

Thanks,

Gus

kevindpm61 on 1886 with a different trigger

Sat, 03 Oct 2026 19:34:15 +0000

Looks like some work has been done to the trigger or it has been upgraded. The trigger condition appears newer than the rest of the rifle.

Dave M. on 1886 with a different trigger

Sat, 03 Oct 2026 18:59:21 +0000

The rifle in question is a 38-56.. S/N 19490.

Here's a link to the auction. It's in Northern Michigan. John Peck Auctions