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This is lifted from a description of a Model 1892, Lot # 1142 in the upcoming auction.

Model 1892 takedown rifles with octagon barrels are scarce.

Really??? While the take down feature might rate as uncommon at best they are by far most common with octagon barrels. Where in the solar system are these "experts" coming from. The same planet as Mork??

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I contacted them about some errors in 2 of their listings and was told that the seller was the one that supplies the right ups and they don’t make changes even when informed about it being wrong.
On the bright side, I asked about additional photos of a rifle that only had 1 photo and they did send me some others directly to me.

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I echo comments from 94shorties. I did a Cody search on one of their antique Model 92s listed as a .44 cal (lot 3137). The search indicated the rifle was a .32. I called and asked for addl pics of the lot and advised them of a potential discrepancy b/c of the search. I received a similar reply in that the seller provides the info. I pointed out that other lot descriptions include a Cody search as "supporting evidence" of authentication so why wouldn’t the same concept apply here. All i heard were crickets in the background. This was a recent conversation so RIA probly hasn’t had time to turn around my pic request but it will be interesting to see what I get.

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With the auction starting this friday, I doubt that they will have time to send any additional photos. Have you checked where they list corrections for lot #? I am going to their site shortly and will check that lot # to see if any changes were made.

Paul

ps__ lot 3142 has a Winchester letter with the rifle but, the letter is for a different Winchester. 🙄

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94shorties said
I contacted them about some errors in 2 of their listings and was told that the seller was the one that supplies the right ups and [color=red:b59cfa0443]they don’t make changes even when informed about it being wrong[/color:b59cfa0443].

WOW!!!!!!! You’d think their experts would at least take that as a red flag to do a little extra research to make sure their listings were honest and correct!!!!!!

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If the sellers do the write-ups, why do they have an expert?

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The simple answers to all of your questions is that they (RIA) are mostly only concerned with making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I and other members of this forum have spotted flat out fakes and the general response is the crickets chirping. They are not the only auction house like this either.

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If the sellers do the write-ups, why do they have an expert?

Brad,

Most sellers do not do their own write up, especially the estate guns. If RIA stated that they do, that is just another outright fabrication of the "truth".

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First off. maverick, what do you mean by "crickets chirping"?? You have used that twice and I have no idea what that means.
The mistakes that I have spotted are usually associated with the DOM which I overlook because I have a Cody s/n search on the rifle or, if the s/n is out of range, just the year it was made. During the last auction, they had a 20" model 1873 but when the s/n search came back from Cody, it should have been a 30" barrel with DST. Needless to say, I just forgot about that one.

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94shorties said
First off. maverick, what do you mean by "crickets chirping"?? You have used that twice and I have no idea what that means.
The mistakes that I have spotted are usually associated with the DOM which I overlook because I have a Cody s/n search on the rifle or, if the s/n is out of range, just the year it was made. During the last auction, they had a 20" model 1873 but when the s/n search came back from Cody, it should have been a 30" barrel with DST. Needless to say, I just forgot about that one.

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Paul,

"crickets chirping" means dead silence all you can hear is the crickets.

When you lettered the 73 you said it had a DST, is that double set trigger? If it is, I have never heard of a DST on a 73, they are all single sets that I have seen or read about.

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Bob
I just hang out with 1894’s to much. The letter just states "trigger : set"
s/n 223037
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caliber 32
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Casehardened
in 1-24-1887
ship 1-24-1887 order number 14832

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Thanks for the cricket explanation>
This rifle was paired up with an 1876 with 1/2 OB that I was interested in. I think that they paired it up with th 76 to get rid of it.

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