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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on I need a History lesson…..</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow.......Great Information Brad!  Shapleigh Hardware sure ordered a bunch.  I have an old Shapleigh Hardware double barrel that belonged to my Great-grandfather.  Its very ornate, and I've always wondered who actually manufactured it.</p>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on I need a History lesson…..</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>George</p>
<p>I believe Winchester loaded ammunition for just about any firearm, if there was a market.  I’m butchering a quote from Henry Brewer here, but while Winchester was known around the world for their guns, they made the real money in ammunition sales. </p>
<p>Winchester sold <strong>a lot</strong> of military ammunition during the Mexican Revolutionary and WWI years.  The big hardware stores on the Mexican-American border bought a lot of 7 m/m ammo, too, along with 30-06, 44 WCF, 30 WCF, etc.   Western cartridge also had big ammo contracts at that time, and I remember looking at records in the McCracken Library, while working on the Model 1895 book, that indicated that Winchester acted as a subcontractor for some of that.  Not long before, Winchester, UMC and US Cartridge (if I remember correctly) had formed the Ammunition Manufacturers Association to make life difficult for companies like Western.</p>
<p>I don't know about those specific boxes.  There might be an example in the Giles and Shuey cartridge box book.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 20:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on I need a History lesson…..</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The box label indicates that it was created in December of 1914.  Undoubtedly, the boxes are at least a few years older than when the label was created.  </p>
<p>Winchester added the 7mm to Model 54 in the 1930 catalog, which means that rifles for it were undoubtedly assembled in the latter half of the year 1929.  Winchester first chambered the 7mm Mauser (7x57) cartridge in the Single Shot rifle (October 1905).</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on I need a History lesson…..</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>On my way back from my cabin trip up north, I have a few favorite antique shops that I hit along the way.  The 3 full boxes were on a shelf priced at $7.50 each. So I quickly added them to my “pile” 😂</p>
<p>Were these some sort of contract ammunition.  To my knowledge Winchester started with the 7mm with the model 54 in the 30s?  These are much earlier…..</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 18:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Early 86…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The '86 looks very decent - and in a great chambering.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 17:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester Model 1894</title>
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<p>Ethical and Beyond hysterical! So to paraphrase, we finally have a good argument for restoration? 😀<br />
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<p>Yes, break out the can of Bondo and the flat black Primer paint!</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Early 86…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm in agreement on a couple very nice honest finds. </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>cj57 on Early 86…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Congrats! Two nice acquisitions, the 86 being my favorite!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 14:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on Early 86…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>That is a really nice 1886 in a very desirable chambering.  I assume the bore is as good as the rest of the rifle?  If so, it should be a fine shooter.</p>
<p>BRP</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 13:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Early 86…</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 12:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Early 86…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I bought this one on my last trip up north to my cabin along with the 73 in my earlier post…..</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 12:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck94 on Winchester Model 1894</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
I found this to be the most honest auction listing that I have ever had the pleasure of reading on Gunbroker !!  This guy gets my vote for "The Most Honest Dealer on Gunbroker"<br />
Winchester model 1894 Carbine 32 Win Special 19 Inch Barrel dates 1917 - Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 1197397415</p>
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Bert<br />
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<p>Ethical and Beyond hysterical! So to paraphrase, we finally have a good argument for restoration? 😀</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 09:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on 1907 SL</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
I’m unfamiliar with the library, how does one access it?-MidwestCrisis<br />
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The McCracken Research Library is located below the Buffalo Bill Center of the West in Cody, WY. Of interest to the Winchester collector it contains Winchester company archives and drawings. Some materials are available online. <br />
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Mike<br />
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McCracken Research Library - Buffalo Bill Center of the West<br />
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<p>Thanks Mike, I just ordered a new buffer from eBay.  The original was absent.  I think you can see remnants of it in my previous picture.  Hopefully it arrives soon and I can give a report before the weekend.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 02:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1907 SL</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’m unfamiliar with the library, how does one access it?-MidwestCrisis</p>
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<p>The McCracken Research Library is located below the Buffalo Bill Center of the West in Cody, WY. Of interest to the Winchester collector it contains Winchester company archives and drawings. Some materials are available online. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.bing.com/alink/link?url=https%3a%2f%2fcenterofthewest.org%2fresearch%2fmccracken-research-library%2f&amp;source=serp-local&amp;h=GNpu47VyuZ9FP36opXq7tKp40AveO3oKsHOOGJcM80c%3d&amp;p=lw_magsmlt&amp;ig=ABEB6E57C1E446AC9BB220C9885A623F&amp;ypid=YNFD549AEEA366F1AF" target="_blank">McCracken Research Library - Buffalo Bill Center of the West</a></p>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on 1907 SL</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
Please let us know how long it takes you to reassemble it, how many skinned knuckles you end up with, and how many times you cuss at it... I know from experience that they do not go back together nearly as easily as they come apart!<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>I was thoroughly warned by Zeb.  I’m going to epoxy the fore stock tonight. Give it 24 hours and plan to clean and reassemble Wednesday or Thursday morning with a fresh pot of coffee and full strength positive attitude.  I’ll keep you updated. </p>
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