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                    <title>Bert H. on Winchester model 94 stamped S.F.P.D. On receiver was made in 1957 </title>
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<p><strong>Steve72 said </strong><br />
I just bought a model 94 30/30 stamped S.F.P.D. On receiver serial number 2281559<br />
Does anyone have any info on this gun?<br />
Thanks <br />
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<p>Pictures please.</p>
<p>S/N 2281559 indicates it was manufactured in 1957.  There was a good sized batch of S.F.P.D. marked Model 94 Carbines that was manufactured in the year 1932 (serial range 1082400 - 1087400).</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Winchester model 94 stamped S.F.P.D. On receiver was made in 1957 </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Any chance we could get pictures of said carbine?</p>
<p> Doug</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steve72 on Winchester model 94 stamped S.F.P.D. On receiver was made in 1957 </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a model 94 30/30 stamped S.F.P.D. On receiver serial number 2281559</p>
<p>Does anyone have any info on this gun?</p>
<p>Thanks </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chris D on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is my half mag 1892 SRC. I got this one from Malcolm Michael. It is serial 351438 in that list</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Things are not nearly simple or consistent on the Model 1892 SRC's.  The barrel proof in front of the rear sight is the position for the 32, 38, and 44 WCF configurations.  But the 25-20 WCF examples had the caliber stamp designed as a two line style which then apparently left room for the barrel proof to be positioned aft of the rear sight and next to the caliber stamp.  And of course because this is Winchester where exceptions tend to be part of the norm there are the weird occurrences of 44 WCF carbines with the barrel proof positioned BELOW the caliber stamp!  On the attached portion of my spreadsheet the green fields denote proofs forward of the rear sight.  The orange denotes proofs adjacent to the caliber stamp associated with the 25-20 WCF rifles.  The grey color are the 44 WCF rifles with the proof stamp below the caliber stamp.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>It was the same thing for the Model 1894 SRCs... the barrel proof mark was stamped in front of the rear sight instead of the caliber stamp.<br />
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Bert<br />
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<p>This last pic Bert is good, I wouldn't have trusted this as a whole if I'd just found this at a show on my own....looks "weird"!<br />
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<p>Interestingly, nearly all of the Model 1894 Carbine barrels with the proof mark stamp in front of the rear sight are also the "August 14" Patent date error barrels that were manufactured in the year 1907.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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<p>It was the same thing for the Model 1894 SRCs... the barrel proof mark was stamped in front of the rear sight instead of the caliber stamp.</p>
<p> <br />
Bert<br />
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<p>This last pic Bert is good, I wouldn't have trusted this as a whole if I'd just found this at a show on my own....looks "weird"!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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<p><strong>twobit said </strong></p>
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mark minnillo said<br />
This is on an 1892 special order rifle. Half round half octagon, half mag, and shotgun butt. Gun made in 1907. Am I correct that "technically" there were only 3 years of production when both caliber markings and WP proof marks were on top of the barrel?<br />
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<p>Hello Mark,<br />
The proof marks began to appear on the top of the barrel along with the caliber stamp during mid 1905 (approximately SN 300000) on the Model 1892 and persisted until the SN 420000 range which corresponds to Feb 1908.  Sporadic occurrences continue well into 1909.  On many SRC's the barrel proof was located in front of the rear sight as opposed to adjacent to the caliber stamp.<br />
Michael<br />
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<p>It was the same thing for the Model 1894 SRCs... the barrel proof mark was stamped in front of the rear sight instead of the caliber stamp.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1173" data-height="148" title="344706-August-14th-Patent-date-error.jpg" alt="344706-August-14th-Patent-date-error.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/09/344706-August-14th-Patent-date-error.jpg" /></p>
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<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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<strong>mark minnillo said </strong><br />
This is on an 1892 special order rifle. Half round half octagon, half mag, and shotgun butt. Gun made in 1907. Am I correct that "technically" there were only 3 years of production when both caliber markings and WP proof marks were on top of the barrel?<br />
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<p>Hello Mark,</p>
<p>The proof marks began to appear on the top of the barrel along with the caliber stamp during mid 1905 (approximately SN 300000) on the Model 1892 and persisted until the SN 420000 range which corresponds to Feb 1908.  Sporadic occurrences continue well into 1909.  On many SRC's the barrel proof was located in front of the rear sight as opposed to adjacent to the caliber stamp.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 16:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm in agreement with Steve, as the information provided here is another great example of the many years and countless hours that has gone into the Survey's and research to bring this to light. </p>
<p>Thanks to Bert for educating us, and thanks to Mark for posting this thread. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bryan Austin on The Doc Pardee Club, still looking for....</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Posted with permission of the owner of #644. I elected to mark out the other two sn#s.</p>
<p>I am learning some interesting facts about this rifle. I should also be receiving copies of some letters/notes from Dr Pardee's "shooting diary", for lack of a better discription.</p>
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<p><img alt="Dr Pardee&apos;s Winchester 73&apos; #644" src="https://www.marlinowners.com/attachments/img_5762aaa-jpg.1049851/?auto=webp&amp;fit=bounds&amp;format=pjgp&amp;height=1920&amp;optimize=high&amp;width=1920" width="480" height="640" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The interesting and useful information provided on this site just doesn't stop coming!  Thanks Bert!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 12:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>For the Model 1894, it wasn't even quite 3-years.  Winchester began Proof marking the barrels and receiver frame ring in July 1905 and in late 1907, the caliber marking began transitioning to the left side of the barrel.  I suspect that the Model 1892 was the same.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mark minnillo on Proof Marks 1892</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This is on an 1892 special order rifle. Half round half octagon, half mag, and shotgun butt. Gun made in 1907. Am I correct that "technically" there were only 3 years of production when both caliber markings and WP proof marks were on top of the barrel?<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/L66Fd19Q/20260924-155852.jpg" width="600" alt="" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bryan Austin on The Doc Pardee Club, still looking for....</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have to share what I now know...I have located Dr Pardee's Winchester #644. As soon as I receive photos and data, I will share it here.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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