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                    <title>Maverick on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>And to add further to Bert's comment there are no Serial Number Application (SNA) ledgers for the Model 1876 at Cody and they likely no longer exist. The SNA ledgers were a separate ledger from the Warehouse Ledgers. If you look on Cody's website you can find a list of which models the W &#038; SNA records are available for each model at Cody.</p>
<p>That is a well documented 1 of 1000. I imagine if the right players get involved it will likely exceed the top end estimate.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Winchester began production of the Model 1876 in late May of the year 1877, with the first delivery to the warehouse taking place on June 8, 1877.  The first public announcement for the Centennial Model was in a Winchester leaflet dated August 10, 1877.  Therefore, any Model 1876 that letters are being received in the warehouse in the year 1877 is indeed a "first year" gun.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 17:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TR on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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<p><strong>Buck1967 said </strong><br />
Hi Guys,<br />
RIA has a 1 of 1000 1876 up for auction and I posted the link below. My question is how do they and the WACA database both show this as a First year production if it wasn’t received in the warehouse until Oct of 77 and no data exists on when the serial # was applied per the Cody letter? I’m suspect of RIA’s word smithing after reading so many of your enlightening posts but in this case the WACA date tool backs up their claim. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Buck<br />
<a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/11/inscribed-winchester-one-of-one-thousand-model-1876-rifle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/11/inscribed-winchester-one-of-one-thousand-model-1876-rifle</a><br />
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<p>  I see your point. Perhaps another question is, how can it be a 1 of 1000 if Winchester at s/n 457 hasn't made 1000 barrels yet? Did they wait until October to test 1000 barrels?</p>
<p>  The serial number on a 76 is on the lower tang which is part of the frame unlike the 73. These guns were not assembled in order of serial number. The whole 1 of 1000 was just a marketing idea to enhance the brand. I'm sure RIA spin is much the same, but they do a amazing job of selling. They got us talking about a high ticket gun on the Forum. T/R</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 12:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on RIA 1 of 1000 question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys,</p>
<p>RIA has a 1 of 1000 1876 up for auction and I posted the link below. My question is how do they and the WACA database both show this as a First year production if it wasn’t received in the warehouse until Oct of 77 and no data exists on when the serial # was applied per the Cody letter? I’m suspect of RIA’s word smithing after reading so many of your enlightening posts but in this case the WACA date tool backs up their claim. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Buck</p>
<p><a href="https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/11/inscribed-winchester-one-of-one-thousand-model-1876-rifle" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4097/11/inscribed-winchester-one-of-one-thousand-model-1876-rifle</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 11:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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<p><strong>Tedk said </strong><br />
My rule of thumb is to buy a gun that costs a little more than I can afford<br />
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<p>You can do monthly, or annually.  The good lord rewards patients.  He teaches fools like me lessons.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 01:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My rule of thumb is to buy a gun that costs a little more than I can afford</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Best advice I was given was to buy the best gun I could afford. This gun may be interesting but if you're patient and paying attention a better gun <strong>will </strong>come along. In the meantime maybe you can scrape a few more Benjamins into the pile to get something nicer. Full disclosure: I don't always follow the sage advice offered but I generally have fun. Trying to get a cobbled together Frankenchester to work like it should isn't fun, IMHO. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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<p>IsaiahMN said<br />
Hello,<br />
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Excited to be a new member! About to pick up my first ever Winchester rifle!<br />
I am looking at purchasing a model 94 from 1895 (serial in 26,000) range. Though it has a model 64 barrel and forend. It appears the forend has some sort of bedding done (is this normal?) and I’d like to remove the forend but there is this dovetail like piece under the forend cap between the barrel and magazine tube that I cannot seem to figure out how to remove. Also curious how to remove the front magazine tube band that dovetails into the barrel just before the magazine cap. I would love any input or resources on disassembly of this area.<br />
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Thank you!!<br />
PHOTOS BELOW<br />
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<a href="https://photobucket.com/share/d0941a6b-61fe-40d1-8d8d-2b8cb92ec081" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://photobucket.com/share/d0941a6b-61fe-40d1-8d8d-2b8cb92ec081</a><br />
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<p>I have decided to pass on this rifle, thank you all for the input!<br />
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<p>If he comes down to $200 or less after you say no. Go for it buddy.  Parts aren’t cheap. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>IsaiahMN on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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<p><strong>IsaiahMN said </strong><br />
Hello,<br />
 <br />
Excited to be a new member! About to pick up my first ever Winchester rifle!<br />
I am looking at purchasing a model 94 from 1895 (serial in 26,000) range. Though it has a model 64 barrel and forend. It appears the forend has some sort of bedding done (is this normal?) and I’d like to remove the forend but there is this dovetail like piece under the forend cap between the barrel and magazine tube that I cannot seem to figure out how to remove. Also curious how to remove the front magazine tube band that dovetails into the barrel just before the magazine cap. I would love any input or resources on disassembly of this area.<br />
 <br />
Thank you!!<br />
PHOTOS BELOW<br />
 <br />
<a href="https://photobucket.com/share/d0941a6b-61fe-40d1-8d8d-2b8cb92ec081" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://photobucket.com/share/d0941a6b-61fe-40d1-8d8d-2b8cb92ec081</a><br />
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<p>I have decided to pass on this rifle, thank you all for the input!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Pictures of the rest of the gun would help, I’d consider what the cost of an original 94 front end would be and ad that into the equation. But just from the pictures you’ve posted. It’s definitely a conversation piece.  </p>
<p>Edit to add. I’d offer 200 to.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hard pass on this gun</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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<p><strong>IsaiahMN said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said<br />
Quite frankly, I do not recommend purchasing that rifle.  It is a cobbled together "Frankenchester".<br />
It appears that the forend tenon has been soldered in place by the "Bubba" who rebuilt it.  The bedding in the forend stock was added by "Bubba", so No, it is not normal.<br />
To remove the magazine band, the first step is to drive the transverse pin out (left to right with the muzzle pointed downrange).  Ordinarily, with the pin removed, it would allow the magazine tube to be pulled forward (through the band and forend cap) until it clears both.  However, it appears that the tube has been soldered to the tenon and barrel. If that is the case, it will not be possible to remove the mag tube.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thank you for the reply, I think what you are seeing that looks like solder is actually a layer of plastic that is part of the bedding, in your opinion in its current state is the wood forend able to be removed? <br />
I can pick this rifle up for $400 out the door, I’ve never seen such an early example receiver, I don’t plan to shoot it much if at all. More wanted it for a wall hanger conversation piece. Do you feel it’s still a bad call at the price? Please be blunt. Haha<br />
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<p>If it is bedding material (not solder), and you can remove it, the magazine tube should slide forward and out of the mag ring which will allow the forend stock to be removed.</p>
<p>As for the price... I personally would be hard pressed to pay more than $200 for it.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>IsaiahMN on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
Quite frankly, I do not recommend purchasing that rifle.  It is a cobbled together "Frankenchester".<br />
It appears that the forend tenon has been soldered in place by the "Bubba" who rebuilt it.  The bedding in the forend stock was added by "Bubba", so No, it is not normal.<br />
To remove the magazine band, the first step is to drive the transverse pin out (left to right with the muzzle pointed downrange).  Ordinarily, with the pin removed, it would allow the magazine tube to be pulled forward (through the band and forend cap) until it clears both.  However, it appears that the tube has been soldered to the tenon and barrel. If that is the case, it will not be possible to remove the mag tube.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thank you for the reply, I think what you are seeing that looks like solder is actually a layer of plastic that is part of the bedding, in your opinion in its current state is the wood forend able to be removed? </p>
<p>I can pick this rifle up for $400 out the door, I’ve never seen such an early example receiver, I don’t plan to shoot it much if at all. More wanted it for a wall hanger conversation piece. Do you feel it’s still a bad call at the price? Please be blunt. Haha</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on 1876 SRC oddity</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Pictures please.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 19:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Model 94 with M64 forend issue </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That’s a horrible looking thing. Leave it unless you can get it for 5$.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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