I am talking about the quality of materials, mechanical functionality, accuracy, fit and cosmetic finish. Traditionalists will never accept the "angle eject" feature, a  rebounding hammer, and other "anomalies" but the guns are commonly acknowledged to be well made and superior to those of the worst of the post-64 years. 

The thing I want to know is how much of what powder and what bullet -- and how many of them - it took to terminate the Buffalo. 

While we are on the subject. Jack O'Connor carried Biesen rifles all over the World and they carried "field marks" to prove it. I would admire to own any of them and not because they were owned by O'Connor. 

Note to self: put a red recoil pad on the 405. 

DEEREHART said
Oh Bert (my grey bearded older brother from a different mother)
 The 270 has been to Montana hunting Mulies, It has also taken a blacktail below the house.
 As for the two new 375s one of them will go to elk camp this year although it might stay in camp on the rainiest days.
 I can also see an opportunity for one of the 375s on my next trip to the dark continant.
Note the "pimp" gun in the below pictures. That is a 95 IN 405  that was restored by my local smith. 
 So you cant say that i am afraid to take them to the field.
 
  

I have to agree... the Cape Buff picture is awesome!  I suspect that you were grinning in relief!

DEEREHART said
Oh Bert (my grey bearded older brother from a different mother)
 The 270 has been to Montana hunting Mulies, It has also taken a blacktail below the house.
 As for the two new 375s one of them will go to elk camp this year although it might stay in camp on the rainiest days.
 I can also see an opportunity for one of the 375s on my next trip to the dark continant.
Note the "pimp" gun in the below pictures. That is a 95 IN 405  that was restored by my local smith. 
 So you cant say that i am afraid to take them to the field.
 
  

That is one of the biggest smiles I have ever seen over that Cape buff! And with a 405wcf. must be like what TR was feeling.

steve004 said
Although not a Winchester, there were a few other manufacturers who chambered the .35 WCF.  One, that I've owned, is a Ross rifle in .35 WCF (barrel marked, ".35 Ross).  There were several models of the Ross rifle where there were but two chamberings:  .303 British and .35 WCF.
  

A Ross in 35wcf!! that would be awsome.

Henry Mero said
Again Mike , some of them were just plain "junk" and some were very well manufactured . You couldn't sell Me on a Canadian Centennial as a shooter, but a Crazy Horse or any of the 9422,s are great guns.
  

Interesting.  I really had no idea that some of the commemorative rifles shot better than others.  I've never owned a commemorative of any model.  

mrcvs said

steve004 said
Wow - that is a nice one.  And I love the Lyman receiver sight on a Model 1892.  I think it was worth what it brought.
  

So, $3136 plus shipping and FFL fees?  
IDK.  Maybe…
This is the stuff we agreed I shouldn’t really be looking at, the stuff that those who really want it can’t afford it, and those who can afford it won’t want it—they will want more condition, perhaps a factory letterable rifle, and possibly a more desirable calibre.  
I bid it to $2300 which was at the higher end of the pre auction estimate, FWIW.
  

I'm thinking this gun has too much condition to be considered a, "middle" gun, but there's not hard and fast rules here.  I would say this gun falls in a, "gray" area but it has too much blue for that

 The 270 has been to Montana hunting Mulies, It has also taken a blacktail below the house.

 As for the two new 375s one of them will go to elk camp this year although it might stay in camp on the rainiest days.

 I can also see an opportunity for one of the 375s on my next trip to the dark continant.

Note the "pimp" gun in the below pictures. That is a 95 IN 405  that was restored by my local smith. 

 So you cant say that i am afraid to take them to the field.

Ben said

Bert H. said
Those are nothing more than "Pimp" guns... unless you are willing to take them all to Elk camp later this year and then drag then through a Salal & Alder thicket chasing a Bull Elk!
  

Bert... for a guy that drives a "dilapidated vehicle" that seems to need constant mechanical attention from said "pimp gun" owner, you might slow your roll! It's well known that I'm another "informed" consumer that appreciates said "pimp guns"!  And seeing that Zeb is in the same crowd, gives me even greater boldness to stand up to the bearded offender!   
  

It is only "dilapidated" because I use it for its intended purpose... drive the daylights out of it!  Those "Pimp" rifles are most likely never going to see a single day at the range or in the field doing what they were designed for.  I want to see one of them leaned up against a harvested deer or elk

Bert

Bert H. said
Those are nothing more than "Pimp" guns... unless you are willing to take them all to Elk camp later this year and then drag then through a Salal & Alder thicket chasing a Bull Elk!
  

Bert... for a guy that drives a "dilapidated vehicle" that seems to need constant mechanical attention from said "pimp gun" owner, you might slow your roll! It's well known that I'm another "informed" consumer that appreciates said "pimp guns"!  And seeing that Zeb is in the same crowd, gives me even greater boldness to stand up to the bearded offender!