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                    <title>Chuck on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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<p>Chuck said<br />
This Henry is not in the correct serial number range for a later military rifle.  Take a picture of the cleaning rod.  It is really hard to tell the difference of an original metal rod and the repos so I wouldn't worry about it.  <br />
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<p>Chuck,<br />
I am pretty sure serial numbers between  7000-9000, are "Type ll martial" Henry Rifles. I have one so marked a few hundred numbers under the one mentioned. These were Mfg. in 1864, and 1865.<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>That proves never say never.  Does it have the later stamp or the earlier stamps?</p>
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                    <title>Anthony on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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<strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
This Henry is not in the correct serial number range for a later military rifle.  Take a picture of the cleaning rod.  It is really hard to tell the difference of an original metal rod and the repos so I wouldn't worry about it.  <br />
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<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I am pretty sure serial numbers between  7000-9000, are "Type ll martial" Henry Rifles. I have one so marked a few hundred numbers under the one mentioned. These were Mfg. in 1864, and 1865.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, this one I have has the "JT", on the wrist.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 17:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This Henry is not in the correct serial number range for a later military rifle.  Take a picture of the cleaning rod.  It is really hard to tell the difference of an original metal rod and the repos so I wouldn't worry about it.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 17:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin,</p>
<p>I also like you're Henry, and am glad you are sharing it here with us. From the pictures that you posted, I don't see any red flags, as everything looks correct to me. I'll try to touch on a few points that you did also.</p>
<p>I agree with Darrin as the 1865 being the year of manufacture. Using the resource here on the WACA site is you're best reference. You're " little Winchester Handbook ", is an already older and outdated way to reference Winchester dates of manufacture.</p>
<p>Most of the surviving Henry's we're well used and had little if any bluing on the barrel.</p>
<p>The sling might be later as you said as I'm not sure on the slings buckle, but the Swivels look good to me, from the pictures. Others can verify that better.</p>
<p>It's neat having the cleaning rod in the butt.</p>
<p>Having verified the stamped numbers on the other parts that you're pictures show is definitely a plus!</p>
<p>I'm not sure of the "&#038;" stamp on the tang. As much as it might look familiar, I can't remember if I ever knew what it means. We have some other members who could possibly help with identifying it. In many cases we see a "W", or an "H", there or behind the screw.</p>
<p>I'm thinking you're post Civil War Henry, or late Civil War Henry, ( 4/12/1861-5/26/1865 ), is a "Type ll" Martially marked rifle. A "AWM", or a "JT", military inspectors stamp would be stamped on the left side of the but stock wrist. I'm not sure when yours was made in 1865! </p>
<p>A very nice Henry rifle!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think the sling is newer than the rifle but it looks good on the gun.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 17:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I sent Rob Kassab a link to this topic.  He is a resident Henry Guru.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Was just wondering if anyone else saw what I was referring to. I’ve had them where the takedown ring at the end of the barrel was the part with less blue and not the other way around, I guess from handling when taking it down. This one is probably as you state, needs to be handled in person. I know of a couple over the years that got swapped out because they didn’t letter and was told the buyer never knew the difference. Not my game but wouldn’t be the first time somebody pulled that one. I guess a data search would confirm but, I’m not in the running so I think I’ll hold onto my last couple searches. 😊</p>
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                    <title>Anthony on Learning exercise:  Winchester Model 1894 Rifle in .38-55 with compelling features</title>
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Tony, what do you think about the original subject rifles condition and configuration. Original? <br />
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<p>Rick, </p>
<p>I would have to handle it and give it my once over to be honest. I had one with many of these same characteristics years ago, but in the Deluxe configuration and the same caliber, but the condition was better. I am in contact with the owner.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Darrin Smith on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>1865, according to the "when was your Winchester made" link found under the resources tab at the top of the WACA forum page.</p>
<p>Looks like that one definitely checks all the boxes. Nice!!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A damn fine gift!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 15:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Brodg88 on 1864 New Haven Arms Henry Rifle, Serial No. 7516 — Seeking Collector Input</title>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">I’m looking for informed collector feedback on an original brass-frame New Haven Arms Henry rifle, serial no. <strong>7516</strong>, believed to be 1864 production. This was a gift to me in a set of a few other guns from a friend whose father was a former collector and she wanted me to have them. I don't know how to begin trying to "authenticate" it but here's where I am so far.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">1. The rifle has matching serial numbers on the top barrel flat, lower tang under the stock, stock inlet, and inside buttplate. There's an "&#038;" on the tang but no other markings I can find.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">2. As far as google can help me tell, it retains late-production Henry features including the Type II brass frame, pointed buttplate, sling swivel and barrel loop, correct-style folding ladder rear sight marked 1–8 with center notch and elevator stop screw, and the large two-line New Haven Arms barrel address (Pictured).</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">3. The stock is crack-free with very tight wood-to-metal fit and retains the original Henry “bump” below the left-side sling swivel area. Is that even possible with a gun that is dated to be this old? The brass frame is very clean with attractive aged patina, tight sideplate fit, and no major dents or damage. Basically, it seems very clean and again, I don't know if that's reasonable for something dated back to the 1860s</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">4.The barrel/magazine has smooth aged patina with crisp markings. but there is no Bluing left on it.  Bore shows clear rifling with minor pitting. The cleaning rod is present in the buttstock. An old leather sling with hook-style attachments is present, though the adjuster is marked “Pat. Jan. 12, 1897,” so I’m treating the sling as a later accessory.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">5. Per my little Winchester handbook, The serial number falls within the 7000–8000 range. so 1864 manufacture?</p>
<p>I would appreciate any knowledgeable input on originality, configuration, cleaning rod/sight correctness, etc. Photos available for review.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Henry, "only" your opinion on the matter of Winchester commemoratives is going to get printed out and pinned on my office wall. Anyone interested in the genre would be wise to do the same. </p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tony, what do you think about the original subject rifles condition and configuration. Original? </p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>As I read over these posts again, I have to agree with these comments and join in on the fact that it's more than I'd be willing to spend on it, and yes it seems these mid level Winchesters are getting pricier!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Most Winchester Commemoratives have the most value , #1- in the original pristine box and sleeve, "unopened" , from there , #2- opened unfired pristine no marks/corrosion with a nice box and paperwork, then #3-  some handling wear and a well worn box. Once they've been fired, other than the factory, it changes the whole ball game as far as collectability and value, (to a serious Commemorative collector). Then there are a lot of extenuating factors involved, eg; which Commemorative We are speaking of. I would be willing to bet none of the 10 only R.C.M.P. presentation guns have been fired because of the value, now $30,000-$40,000.00 or more, but all 32 of the R.C.M.P. #MPX#'rd guns have been fired and still bring a huge price. A regular R.C.M.P. , in the box, in average condition brings about $2500+/- unfired and about $1200+/-, used, a big difference. A complete pridtine , Chief Crazy Horse, with matching stamps,  knife, etc. would bring a very substantial $ value, $3500 - $4000, while the one being "used is a $1200 -$1500 gun. So 'ya , large difference. Pretty much the same can be said for the rest of the "normal" commemoratives, that is to say once they've been fired and the odd little mar, they go to about 1/2 the value of the unfired , unmarred gun.  My thoughts and opinions only.</p>
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