As Bob mentioned, the octagon barrels were tapered, and the taper rate could vary slightly from one barrel to the next.  On the standard weight (size) octagon barrels the tape rate was usually .005/per inch.  The Heavy and Extra Heavy barrels typically have a .0025/per inch taper rate.

Bert

And here is where you need a fine, accurate 22 rimfire of the same action type and sights as your deer rifle. If you ate going to hunt with an open sighted Model 94 .30 Winchester, you need a 9422, a Marlin 39A, or a Henry. 

If nothing else, the sub-rifle will convince you to equip both rifles with aperture sights!

Sadly, some city dwellers have only ranges that forbid offhand or position rifle shooting. In those cases, an air rifle in your back yard can help more than you might think. 

But practice, practice, practice. Many short sessions are better than one or two long ones. It is actually fun.

Bob

Here it is, very nice condition 

1873man,

are the octagonal barrels tapered? I have a set of mics and can get a measurement of the barrel at the muzzle.

please share your email address and Id be happy to share some photos. 

Bert,

if I take those measurements, what should I be getting?

Looks like these really didn't see heavy use, as I understand this/these to be used in New York guarding infrastructures, such as the Niagara Falls, and possibly others, during WW l . 

I'm wondering how many of these we're done up like this. That stamp is pretty uniform and straight as far as alignment. The stamping looks to have finish inside of it as it doesn't look to be burned in and applied. I'm also assuming the stamp was a one piece block stamp and struck with a hammer, with the rack number 4 separate. All the more reason more than one was stamped.

Jim Gordon shows different batches of M-1873's, in his book, being ordered in large numbers from 1875-1903, as carbines, rifles and muskets. It would be nice if some where, it's recorded the same type of information, to possibly help find out more about this carbine, or others in a bulk shipment, for M-1894 Carbines and possibly rifles and or muskets. 

It amazes me that this is just coming to light now. It surly doesn't look to be a one off example, and especially with the above information. 

Devils advocate, and I'm going out on a limb here;

Where did the auction house get it's information from? Any way to positively identify it's authenticity? Is it too good to be true? Why aren't there any others known before this? Is it or was it worth someone to make up a block stamp and apply it to the butt stock? I did read there we're almost 10,000 troops stationed during WW l to guard the waterways, and several in the state of NY, guarding Niagara Falls. Was this an opportunity to possibly create this? 

I'm not saying this is not real or an actual firearm for what it is represented as, but with all we've seen in the past, it sure has me wondering! 

More pics of this carbine would be enjoyable also.

Tony

Bob

Louis Luttrell said
Not a great picture of the gun (scanned off a Kodachrome slide), but this is what it looks like with an average TX whitetail...

Best,
Lou
  

PM me I'd like to know how to do this.

JWA said

TXGunNut said
Randy-My brother asked me about the Scout commemoratives years ago before they increased in popularity.
Jeff- my brother Steve was on the Philmont staff in the mid 70's, when I'm in Raton I like to get lunch in Cimarron and sometimes take a loop by Philmont HQ and museum. Both of us are Eagle Scouts. Lodge made special cast-iron Scout skillets awhile back, FWIW. 
 
Mike
  

I will be Skillet shopping soon!  I got to go back as the ASM leader (follower) for my son's Philmont experience and, as usual, it was awesome!  Although it is not as "politically correct" as it used to be, I have my Dad's Plumb BSA marked Scout hatchet, my Plumb BSA Scout hatchet from the 70's and my son has the newer Gerber Scout hatchet.  To heavy to carry to Philmont but all 3 have seen good trail use.  One of these days I will make a display for them, with hopefully, a few extra hatchet spots for future generations.
I didn't know you were an Eagle Scout, that explains why I like you, I couldn't figure out why before 😉
Best Regards,
  

Jeff-

The skillet I mentioned was issued in 2010 so happy hunting! I did a short two-year stint as a Scouter when a few former Boy Scouts at the PD I was working with "adopted" a Webelos pack of boys in single parent households. I even served on the district committee and believe it or not served as an event photographer. Loved me some Kodachrome! We got all our boys graduated into Boy Scouts and quite honestly the adults had nearly as much fun as the boys! My brother is currently serving as a Scouter, he's on a few committees in the Houston area and works with Scouts on their conservation projects. I got to sit on a few Eagle Boards over the years but seem to have dropped off that list.

I didn't realize you were an Eagle until the 75 book, I think it's interesting how Eagle Scouts tend to run into each other as adults. 

Mike

Measuring the precise location of the front sight dovetail slot will usually identify a cut-down barrel, as will the precise location of the magazine tube retaining ring.

Bert