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                    <title>Zebulon on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>I downloaded two of your images and asked Gemini Pro to try to identify the engraver. For what it is worth, here is he response I got:  </em></strong></p>
<p>Based on the deep relief scrollwork and the "oak leaf and acorn" (**Eichenlaub**) motif on both the metal and wood, this Winchester Model 70 was almost certainly customized in Germany during the late 1950s. While it is unsigned, the style and timing point to a specific circle of masters.</p>
<p>### Most Likely Identification: The Kurt Jaeger / Willig Circle<br />
In 1958, the most prominent source for this type of work on American rifles was the shop of **Kurt Jaeger** in Mainz, Germany. Jaeger specialized in customizing firearms for U.S. servicemen stationed in Europe and for the American market through his brother **Paul Jaeger** in Jenkintown, Pennsylvania.<br />
* **The Engraver:** The engraving is highly characteristic of the **Willig family**, specifically **Emil Willig** or his son **Claus Willig**. They were the primary engravers for Kurt Jaeger. Their work frequently featured the deep, high-relief oak leaf patterns and fine scrolling seen on the receiver and barrel of this rifle.<br />
* **The Stock Carving:** The relief-carved oak leaves and basketweave checkering (a Germanic alternative to traditional diamond checkering) were typically done by specialized "Schäfter" (stock makers) in the **Suhl** or **Zella-Mehlis** regions who worked under the Jaeger or "Guild" umbrella.<br />
* **Why it's Unsigned:** In the German gunmaking tradition of that era, individual engravers often did not sign their work due to strict trade guild rules. Frequently, the shop owner’s name (e.g., "Kurt Jaeger, Mainz") was the only mark, and sometimes even that was omitted if the rifle was a direct "Guild" commission.<br />
### Key Indicators<br />
* **Motif:** The oak leaf and acorn pattern is the "national" engraving style of Germany/Austria, often referred to as **Jager-style**.<br />
* **Technique:** The "shaded" background of the scrollwork and the relief carving on the wood are hallmarks of the **Ferlach** or **Suhl** schools.<br />
* **Rear Sight:** The folding rear sight and the treatment of the barrel breech are common modifications found on rifles sent to the Jaeger shop for "Deluxe" packages.<br />
&#062; **Note:** If you ever find a tiny signature, it might be hidden on the bottom of the receiver tang or under the floorplate hinge, sometimes appearing as a small **"EW"** (Emil Willig) or **"CW"** (Claus Willig).</p>
<p><strong><em>In my experience, Artificial Intelligence engines -- like human experts -- are frequently wrong but never in doubt. However, I have found the paid version of Gemini, as opposed to the free version, sufficiently useful to consult in arms collecting matters regularly. These engines have been fed and digested huge quantities of scholarly literature - in fact, everything available to scholars on the Web - including a lot I can't access directly. You can't take it to the bank but it is a place to start.<img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3051.jpeg" alt="IMG_3051.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/05/IMG_3051.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3061.jpeg" alt="IMG_3061.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/05/IMG_3061.jpeg" /></em></strong></p>
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                    <title>steve004 on An old wivestail???</title>
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<p><strong>Maverick said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>steve004 said<br />
Were they sighted in at the factory with either smokeless or black powder?  I don't quite see how they would have done this with the .32 Special given they didn't offer black powder cartridges in this chambering.</p>
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<p>Steve,<br />
Take a close look at the picture of scanned copy of the 1905 catalog I posted earlier in this topic.  Directyl below the high-lighted box is the ballistics data for the 32 W.S. black powder loading.  While Winchester may not have offered factory (commercially) loaded BP ammo for the 32 W.S., they apparently did load and test it.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>They offered to the public and stated "We load this cartridge with Smokeless powder only, but are prepared to furnish primed shells, full metal patched, metal patched soft pointed, or plain lead bullets, and reloading tools, for loading with black powder. We do not advise hand loading or reloading of this cartridge with Smokeless powder by individuals.", on the original announcement flyer.<br />
They sold the Winchester Model 1894 Reloading Tool in 32 W.S. and as the flyer state you could use 40 grains of black powder to reload with. The flyer is an early flyer as it describes the 165 grain bullet, which was later changed to 170 grains.</p>
<p>On the reloading tool boxes the end labels also recommended using Black Powder Only. Winchester discouraged the public from reloading with Smokeless Powder not wanting to risk the liability from a lawsuit.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Maverick<br />
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<p>I found this interesting as well.  I was struck by their statement that the 32 W.S., loaded with black powder, makes it a, "powerful black powder cartridge."</p>
<p>And of course, their recommendation that individuals not attempt to load with smokeless powder but they're all for individuals loading with smokeless powder.  I always think of black powder as being more volatile than smokeless powder, so this is counter-intuitive to me.  Was the main worry that handloader would put too much smokeless powder in the case and that couldn't happen with black powder.  </p>
<p>And finally, I didn't spot any mention of the need for sight adjust between smokeless powder vs. black powder loads.  There is quite a difference in velocity between the two.</p>
<p>I'm really enjoying all of this information - thanks Bert and Maverick.</p>
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                    <title>steve004 on An old wivestail???</title>
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<strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
Here is the April 1905 catalog again, but with just the 32 W.S. load data high-lighted.</p>
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<p>This is very interesting.  One aspect I find most interesting is that the .32 Special is the only cartridge listed loaded with black powder!  </p>
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                    <title>win4575 on An old wivestail???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have the same 1894 reloading tool and mold, new in the box.  Label reads for "Black Powder Only".</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Commissioner on Can anyone identify the engraver of this 1958 Winchester Model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Fellows: I have this beautiful high relief engraved model 70, made in 1958. 68 years ago. It is in pristine condition and I paid a lot of money for it. The stock is also beautifully carved. I would like to find out who the engraver was? It was not a factory engraver. Perhaps someone here will recognize the engraving. It was done by a Master the old fashioned way long before any lasers were around. Hammer and Chisel. Murene said it was not done by Winchester. Any help would be<img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3055.jpeg" alt="IMG_3055.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3055.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3048.jpeg" alt="IMG_3048.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3048.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3050.jpeg" alt="IMG_3050.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3050.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3049.jpeg" alt="IMG_3049.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3049.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3051.jpeg" alt="IMG_3051.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3051.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3061.jpeg" alt="IMG_3061.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3061.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3062.jpeg" alt="IMG_3062.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3062.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3060.jpeg" alt="IMG_3060.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3060.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3059.jpeg" alt="IMG_3059.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3059.jpeg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="IMG_3058.jpeg" alt="IMG_3058.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/commissioner/2026/05/IMG_3058.jpeg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Maverick on An old wivestail???</title>
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Were they sighted in at the factory with either smokeless or black powder?  I don't quite see how they would have done this with the .32 Special given they didn't offer black powder cartridges in this chambering.</p>
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<p>Steve,<br />
Take a close look at the picture of scanned copy of the 1905 catalog I posted earlier in this topic.  Directyl below the high-lighted box is the ballistics data for the 32 W.S. black powder loading.  While Winchester may not have offered factory (commercially) loaded BP ammo for the 32 W.S., they apparently did load and test it.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>They offered to the public and stated <em><strong>"We load this cartridge with Smokeless powder only, but are prepared to furnish primed shells, full metal patched, metal patched soft pointed, or plain lead bullets, and reloading tools, for loading with black powder. We do not advise hand loading or reloading of this cartridge with Smokeless powder by individuals."</strong>, </em>on the original announcement flyer. <img data-upload="1" data-width="847" data-height="1045" title="32WS-flyer-Front.jpg" alt="32WS-flyer-Front.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/maverick/2026/05/32WS-flyer-Front.jpg" /></p>
<p>They sold the Winchester Model 1894 Reloading Tool in 32 W.S. and as the flyer state you could use 40 grains of black powder to reload with. The flyer is an early flyer as it describes the 165 grain bullet, which was later changed to 170 grains.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="800" data-height="533" title="1894Tool-32WS.JPG" alt="1894Tool-32WS.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/maverick/2026/05/1894Tool-32WS.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="800" data-height="533" title="1894ToolDie-32WS.JPG" alt="1894ToolDie-32WS.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/maverick/2026/05/1894ToolDie-32WS.JPG" /></p>
<p>On the reloading tool boxes the end labels also recommended using Black Powder Only. Winchester discouraged the public from reloading with Smokeless Powder not wanting to risk the liability from a lawsuit.</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="284" data-height="185" title="32WS-BoxEndLabel.jpg" alt="32WS-BoxEndLabel.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/maverick/2026/05/32WS-BoxEndLabel.jpg" /></p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Maverick</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 21:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It functions perfectly, and everything fits right. The aging of the wood and metal all match, and appear to have been done long ago. I thought maybe someone had heard of Bates.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting the pictures.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tim tomlinson on 1876 Winchester SRC - Pictures</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Maverick is correct, but the carbine is an interesting piece for sure.  Took more than a bit of imagination plus moderate skill to put it together.  Tim</p>
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                    <title>Maverick on 1876 Winchester SRC - Pictures</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the whole front half of the old girl was made up by a gunsmith, perhaps that would've been Mr. Bates himself, and certainly not factory. I imagine the buttstock is a replacement as well. They only made the 76 SRCs with the full stock forearm and they never made them for 50 Gov. and only in 50-95 Express caliber. I suppose joe blow gunsmith could have robbed the parts from a 86 carbine to make up this Frankenwinchester.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here they are.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the April 1905 catalog again, but with just the 32 W.S. load data high-lighted.</p>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
Were they sighted in at the factory with either smokeless or black powder?  I don't quite see how they would have done this with the .32 Special given they didn't offer black powder cartridges in this chambering.</p>
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<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Take a close look at the picture of scanned copy of the 1905 catalog I posted earlier in this topic.  Directyl below the high-lighted box is the ballistics data for the 32 W.S. <strong>black powder</strong> loading.  While Winchester may not have offered factory (commercially) loaded BP ammo for the 32 W.S., they apparently did load and test it.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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Steve,<br />
I know that you have shot and do like to shoot you're rifles. What in particular do you like about shooting you're .32 Special, with that style of rear sight on it. Not being familiar with that style rear sight, is it the graduations? If I remember correctly, and without looking into my library here, is it a type of ladder sight, with the sliding graduated adjustment on it?<br />
I did find it interesting that in you're post, you quoted what Winchester stated, that it was graduated for the B/P, and the smokeless powder! Interesting.<br />
Thanks for sharing!<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>Tony -</p>
<p>My eyes aren't great and iron sights and eye glasses are not a great combination for me.  As far as rear sights go, the .32 Special Smokeless sight isn't as bad as others for me.  However, what has worked the very best for me (by a country mile) is this rear sight:</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Decided to throw in the dates just because.   60,000 was 1907.   70,000 was 1910.  80,000 was 1912.  So now you also have a date range for the links and hammers being case hardened and colored.  Cheers!  Tim</p>
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                    <title>steve004 on An old wivestail???</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am amused to note that despite Winchester's catalog statement about the .32 Special sight - “Rifles for the .32 Winchester Special Cartridge are fitted with a new and specially designed rear sight…which is graduated for either Smokeless or Black powder cartridges."  As will be seen in the photo below, the "SMOKELESS" as aspect if very prominent.  And no, the other side is not marked Black Powder.  I recall on other Winchester lever rifles, the catalog descriptions mentioned that the buyer shoot specify whether the rifle should be sighted for smokeless or black powder.  I don't quite understand how this actually played out.  Were they sighted in at the factory with either smokeless or black powder?  I don't quite see how they would have done this with the .32 Special given they didn't offer black powder cartridges in this chambering.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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