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                    <title>Bert H. on Takedown Model 92</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My choice would be to have an extra barrel assembly made in .357 Magnum.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on X after a serial number?</title>
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<strong>twobit said </strong><br />
I have found NO Model 1892's or Model 61's with an "X" suffix at the serial number.<br />
Michaeal<br />
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<p>The practice of stamping the "<strong>X</strong>" began shortly after production of the Model 92 ended.  There is at least one Model 65 out there with it though, serial number 1006320<strong>X</strong> (1941 production).</p>
<p>I have (9) Model 43 rifles documented thus far with "<strong>X</strong>" marked serial numbers (from a total of (2,198). Here are several of them'</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="628" data-height="214" title="228X-218-B.jpg" alt="228X-218-B.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/228X-218-B.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1258" data-height="549" title="569X-218-B.jpg" alt="569X-218-B.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/569X-218-B.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="883" data-height="332" title="2526X-218-B.jpg" alt="2526X-218-B.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/2526X-218-B.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1120" data-height="684" title="3522X-218-B.jpg" alt="3522X-218-B.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/3522X-218-B.jpg" /></p>
<p>I also have found a small number of late production Model 97 Shotguns with the "<strong>X</strong>"</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="294" data-height="633" title="E1004893X.jpg" alt="E1004893X.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/10/E1004893X.jpg" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 17:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Hotchkiss Muskets</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>OK, here is some more information on the rifle I am looking at.  It is not a Musket.  It is a rifle with a 32" barrel.  The standard barrel length is 26".  The 32" barrel must have been robbed from a 1st or 2nd Model Musket?  The 3rd Model musket has a 28" barrel.  It letters as a round 26" barrel. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 17:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 94 deluxe on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tried to lighten it.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you just want one to play with, you can get a 45-90 for less than a 10th of 18K and the workmanship is as good as on that one. <img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix950369800.jpg" alt="pix950369800.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix950369800.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix653111735.jpg" alt="pix653111735.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix653111735.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix068827585.jpg" alt="pix068827585.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix068827585.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix552686504.jpg" alt="pix552686504.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix552686504.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix486635438.jpg" alt="pix486635438.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix486635438.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="750" title="pix368043442.jpg" alt="pix368043442.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/10/pix368043442.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 15:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on X after a serial number?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have found Model 75's and Model 77's from the mid-late 1950's with the "X".  I do not have a survey of the Model 77 so I can't give you statistics but I have seen at least a dozen duplicates over the years for that model.</p>
<p>Below is an example of a Model 77 with a duplicate number.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1000" data-height="753" title="77-Duplicate-Serial-Number.jpg" alt="77-Duplicate-Serial-Number.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/jwa/2026/10/77-Duplicate-Serial-Number.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on X after a serial number?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have found NO Model 1892's or Model 61's with an "X" suffix at the serial number.</p>
<p>Michaeal</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 14:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>twobit on Takedown Model 92</title>
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<p><strong>ssdave said </strong><br />
As those of you who know me would know, I'm not much of a Winchester guy, except for 1885's and model 70 rifles as a basis for custom rifles.<br />
However......  I've always wanted a 92 in .25-20.  Don't ask why, I just have wanted one.  I picked one up the other day along with a bunch of other rifles.  Didn't look at it close at the time, just put a nominal price to it and bought.  It's a well used ranch gun, stock worn, barrel blue worn, action shows a hundred scratrches, just beat up from 120 years of haystacks, barns, and pickup floors.  <br />
I looked at it today, and realized it's a bit special.  Half octagon, thin barrel.  Half length mag tube, and it's a takedown. Made in 1893.  Bore is good.  <br />
I happen to have in my parts a spare takedown flange.  Checked, it fits correctly.  Cool, I can make a multi-barrel set.  I can easily mill a blank to match the barrel contour, and could have Hunter Restortion mark it to match the .25-20 barrel.<br />
Then, it occurred to me:  There's only 3 calibers.  25 wcf, 32 wcf, 218 bee.  I sure don't need a 32 wcf, and 218 bee would be one step more worthless than a .25 wcf. <br />
What to do?  Or should I just pass it on and pretend I never owned it?<br />
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<p>Good morning,</p>
<p>Can you please post some images and the serial number of the rifle.  Then we can assess and advise.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 13:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Takedown Model 92</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Pictures would help us help you, with at least a conversation.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 12:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm in agreement with the members here, and as Bert said it was stated as "probably restored"!</p>
<p>One has to ask themself, if a rifle was bought 1890, did the buyer of this said rifle choose to buy it and leave it in storage? With it's original finish and protective coating on it to keep it pristine?</p>
<p>I highly Doubt it!</p>
<p>Where's the box and paper work? We know that keeping that back then wasn't considered anything that was really done. Just taking it out over the years to play show and tell with family and friends can show some handling marks. This ones metal finish looks new! So is the wood!</p>
<p>I highly doubt it!</p>
<p>I know that I wouldn't be interested in it, as a restored example for $18,000.00! One could get a Turnbull example for that kind of money that seems to hold they're value and possibly increase with provenance!</p>
<p>I do agree, it's a very clean example, and a pretty nice job was done on it, as the work out there has improved that we are seeing today!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I thought that it was a very nice looking rifle ..........almost to nice. I don't study the market value of the 1886's but, the price seemed high to me.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 09:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>ssdave on Takedown Model 92</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>As those of you who know me would know, I'm not much of a Winchester guy, except for 1885's and model 70 rifles as a basis for custom rifles.</p>
<p>However......  I've always wanted a 92 in .25-20.  Don't ask why, I just have wanted one.  I picked one up the other day along with a bunch of other rifles.  Didn't look at it close at the time, just put a nominal price to it and bought.  It's a well used ranch gun, stock worn, barrel blue worn, action shows a hundred scratrches, just beat up from 120 years of haystacks, barns, and pickup floors.  </p>
<p>I looked at it today, and realized it's a bit special.  Half octagon, thin barrel.  Half length mag tube, and it's a takedown. Made in 1893.  Bore is good.  </p>
<p>I happen to have in my parts a spare takedown flange.  Checked, it fits correctly.  Cool, I can make a multi-barrel set.  I can easily mill a blank to match the barrel contour, and could have Hunter Restortion mark it to match the .25-20 barrel.</p>
<p>Then, it occurred to me:  There's only 3 calibers.  25 wcf, 32 wcf, 218 bee.  I sure don't need a 32 wcf, and 218 bee would be one step more worthless than a .25 wcf.  <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>What to do?  Or should I just pass it on and pretend I never owned it?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 05:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>How often would someone that’s not a member of WACA have a gun refinished like that?  Seems to me Simpson is giving accolades to the gunsmiths that did the work, but also giving a collector something to ponder on.  There’s a couple videos on the YouTube.  The RIA in its original shipping crate.  And a wonderful refinished 1886 that’s been on this forum, and is a gorgeous rifle.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 03:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The wood to metal fit, especially at the rear receiver and the buttstock is not of factory quality and tells us this is likely a restoration.</p>
<p>Because of this, the asking price of $18,500 is well beyond exuberant.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Thoughts on this 1886 Rifle</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My issue is that it's too nice. Screws are perfect with no oil or other residue in the slots and no hint a poorly fit screwdriver has ever touched them. The wood to metal gaps are maybe a bit wide but again, no oil or other residue. I think at the very least it has been disassembled recently and thoroughly cleaned. No idea why that would be necessary. Pics all look nice but the pics of the stampings, dovetails and sights are conspicuous in their absence. Very nice. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 01:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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