<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
	    <channel>
        <title>Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Rifles</title>
        <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/</link>
        <description><![CDATA[Official Site of the Winchester Arms Collectors Association]]></description>
        <generator>Simple:Press Version 6.11.14</generator>
        <atom:link href="https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/rss/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/>
		                <item>
                    <title>Zebulon on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182164</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182164</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Doug, you are an honest man for all that you are adrenaline freak with Texas-size  <em>cojones. </em>A lesser man wouldn't have mentioned the .375 Holland. </p>
<p>It's the belly crawl to get within 70 yards of that monster that deserves recognition. I don't know there's enough good Scotch whiskey in Africa to make me think that would be a good idea. Climbing a tree would be more appealing. </p>
<p>But he's a hell of a trophy, even if you probably had to tear out a door frame to get the head on your wall. </p>
<p>Thanks much for sharing. </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 04:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>Zebulon on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182163</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182163</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Concur.  Actually, the "1964" gun was so bad cosmetically that it put resale prices of ALL used Model 94s in the toilet for a while. In 2000 I bought a like new "longwood" 1951 Model 94 for $299 off a local consignment rack. I didn"t need it but couldn't pass it up. The only reason I later sold it was the factory did not tap the left receiver wall for an aperture sight. As far as I could see, it had never been fired beyond factory proof!  </p>
<p>1975 - 1980 were good years for the Model 94.</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 04:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>DEEREHART on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182162</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182162</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Zeb</p>
<p>There is a story.....I had 5 days to hunt buffalo. The goal was to get within 50 yards for a clean shot with the 405.</p>
<p>300 grain Woodleigh 58.5 g 4895 2250 FPS. </p>
<p>We had a couple of opportunities at 75 to 100 yards but i passed, day 5 we decided that if we couldnt get within my wanted range we would use a 375. Morning of we found the herd and belly crawled to 70 yards. 375 in the boiler room! He was pissed and looking for whatever hit him (me). Follow up with another 375 and he was going down.</p>
<p>We gave him a minute and he was not going to get up, i paid the insurance with the 405 and we were done.</p>
<p>Not quite as cool as a 405 only kill but still..</p>
<p> Defiantly an awesome experience that i will chase again.<img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="640" title="Bullet.jpg" alt="Bullet.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deerehart/2026/07/Bullet.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="640" title="Koos-Eddie.jpg" alt="Koos-Eddie.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deerehart/2026/07/Koos-Eddie.jpg" /></p>
<p> The day before i got him there was a hunter killed by a buff less than 50 miles from me. I did not know it at the time.</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 04:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>Zebulon on Seeking advice on new rifle and site options. </title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/seeking-advice-on-new-rifle-and-site-options/page-2/#p182161</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/seeking-advice-on-new-rifle-and-site-options/page-2/#p182161</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Just keep your need posted on the swapmeet topic and if I see anything elsewhere I'll PM you. </p>
<p>You might try Ben Tolson if you haven't already. </p>
<p>In general, because this is a collectors' organization, I have the feeling most tend to associate Redfield micrometer aperture sights with the later Winchester lever actions and Lyman micrometer sights with Winchester bolt actions. I can't prove it.  </p>
<p>If you can't find a suitable Redfield 80, another alternative would be to obtain a "short block" Lyman 48 WJS and have a competent gunsmith fit the block to the wood, removing steel (rather than wood) as necessary to achieve a proper fit without scarring the Walnut or its finish. </p>
<p>Given that you have no way to install a scope or a barrel mounted open sight without seriously modifying the rifle,  the least injurious way to make the rifle useable is to install a good micrometer aperture sight in the provided factory holes. Without it, you have an expensive paperweight. </p>
<p>I would myself try to do what you are doing. If unsuccessful I would do the needful with a late production Lyman 48 and have someone with the necessary skill at metal working do the installation. </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 03:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182160</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182160</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>It might seem that I was discounting my post 64 94.  I didn’t mean to. It’s a very nice rifle made in the mid 70s.  It’s also from Illinois so I’m pretty sure it didn’t have a box of shells through it when I bought it 50 years later.  I see these rifles gaining a little price these days   Used to be a 5-600$.  Now I’m seeing more.  If I had a friend that wanted a lever gun, I would recommend a used post 64 94 over the new Henry or Rossi </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>Zebulon on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182159</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182159</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I think most would agree the overall quality of the Winchester Model 94,  run-of-the-mine or commemorative, reached its nadir in 1964 and then, from about 1968 steadily improved until, by the mid-Seventies, it was quite respectable and a serious competitor of the Marlin 336. Any manufactured after 1980 until the end of New Haven production were very nice indeed. </p>
<p>I am talking about the quality of materials, mechanical functionality, accuracy, fit and cosmetic finish. Traditionalists will never accept the "angle eject" feature, a  rebounding hammer, and other "anomalies" but the guns are commonly acknowledged to be well made and superior to those of the worst of the post-64 years. </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 03:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>Zebulon on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182157</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182157</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That is one of the best "trophy" photos I've ever seen.  Of course he's relieved. I would have relieved myself and had to have a pre-photo wardrobe change. [A common event when enough adrenaline kicks in.]</p>
<p>The thing I want to know is how much of what powder and what bullet -- and how many of them - it took to terminate the Buffalo. </p>
<p>While we are on the subject. Jack O'Connor carried Biesen rifles all over the World and they carried "field marks" to prove it. I would admire to own any of them and not because they were owned by O'Connor. </p>
<p>Note to self: put a red recoil pad on the 405. </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 02:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>Bert H. on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182156</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182156</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>DEEREHART said </strong><br />
Oh Bert (my grey bearded older brother from a different mother)<br />
 The 270 has been to Montana hunting Mulies, It has also taken a blacktail below the house.<br />
 As for the two new 375s one of them will go to elk camp this year although it might stay in camp on the rainiest days.<br />
 I can also see an opportunity for one of the 375s on my next trip to the dark continant.<br />
Note the "pimp" gun in the below pictures. That is a 95 IN 405  that was restored by my local smith. <br />
 So you cant say that i am afraid to take them to the field.<br />
 <br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>I have to agree... the Cape Buff picture is awesome!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" />  I suspect that you were grinning in relief!</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Sometimes the model 70 Karma comes around</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182154</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sometimes-the-model-70-karma-comes-around/#p182154</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>DEEREHART said </strong><br />
Oh Bert (my grey bearded older brother from a different mother)<br />
 The 270 has been to Montana hunting Mulies, It has also taken a blacktail below the house.<br />
 As for the two new 375s one of them will go to elk camp this year although it might stay in camp on the rainiest days.<br />
 I can also see an opportunity for one of the 375s on my next trip to the dark continant.<br />
Note the "pimp" gun in the below pictures. That is a 95 IN 405  that was restored by my local smith. <br />
 So you cant say that i am afraid to take them to the field.<br />
 <br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>That is one of the biggest smiles I have ever seen over that Cape buff! And with a 405wcf. must be like what TR was feeling.</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>steve004 on 35 Winchester</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182153</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182153</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Let me add the Ross was not the only bolt-action rifle chambered in .35 WCF.  Add the Remington-Lee rifle to the list.  I've owned two:  one .38-55 and one .30-40.  I would enjoy owning others.  .32 Special, .38-72, .405, 44-77 and .45-90 would be nice (in addition to the .35 WCF).  </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 00:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on 35 Winchester</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182152</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182152</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
Although not a Winchester, there were a few other manufacturers who chambered the .35 WCF.  One, that I've owned, is a Ross rifle in .35 WCF (barrel marked, ".35 Ross).  There were several models of the Ross rifle where there were but two chamberings:  .303 British and .35 WCF.<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>A Ross in 35wcf!! that would be awsome.</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 23:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>steve004 on 35 Winchester</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182150</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/35-winchester/#p182150</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Although not a Winchester, there were a few other manufacturers who chambered the .35 WCF.  One, that I've owned, is a Ross rifle in .35 WCF (barrel marked, ".35 Ross).  There were several models of the Ross rifle where there were but two chamberings:  .303 British and .35 WCF.</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 22:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>steve004 on Commemorative Winchesters, shoot them or not?</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182148</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/commemorative-winchesters-shoot-them-or-not/page-3/#p182148</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
Again Mike , some of them were just plain "junk" and some were very well manufactured . You couldn't sell Me on a Canadian Centennial as a shooter, but a Crazy Horse or any of the 9422,s are great guns.<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Interesting.  I really had no idea that some of the commemorative rifles shot better than others.  I've never owned a commemorative of any model.  </p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 22:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>steve004 on Did anyone get this decent Model 1892 Rifle in .32-20?</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/did-anyone-get-this-decent-model-1892-rifle-in-32-20/#p182147</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/did-anyone-get-this-decent-model-1892-rifle-in-32-20/#p182147</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p><strong>mrcvs said </strong></p>
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote">
<p>steve004 said<br />
Wow - that is a nice one.  And I love the Lyman receiver sight on a Model 1892.  I think it was worth what it brought.<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>So, $3136 plus shipping and FFL fees?  <br />
IDK.  Maybe…<br />
This is the stuff we agreed I shouldn’t really be looking at, the stuff that those who really want it can’t afford it, and those who can afford it won’t want it—they will want more condition, perhaps a factory letterable rifle, and possibly a more desirable calibre.  <br />
I bid it to $2300 which was at the higher end of the pre auction estimate, FWIW.<br />
  </p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm thinking this gun has too much condition to be considered a, "middle" gun, but there's not hard and fast rules here.  I would say this gun falls in a, "gray" area but it has too much blue for that <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" /></p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 21:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				                <item>
                    <title>426crown on 1866 Center Fire Carbine 44-40</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/1866-center-fire-carbine-44-40/#p182145</link>
                    <category>Winchester Rifles</category>
                    <guid isPermaLink="true">https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/1866-center-fire-carbine-44-40/#p182145</guid>
					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi--Anyone have info on SN 99940--too early for shipment to Brazil--Bill</p>
]]></description>
					                    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2026 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
                </item>
				    </channel>
	</rss>
