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                    <title>mrcvs on 1892 rifle </title>
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<p><strong>mrcvs said </strong></p>
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<p>James Fenderson said<br />
I looked at a 92 deluxe rifle yesterday 44 caliber serial number 941xx  with a factory letter said received in warehouse on november 19 1902 shipped from warehouse on nov 20 1902 . Madis book showes 1895 did a internet serial number search said 1898 i know Madis numbers are off a few years . Where was this resiver been hidding for four years<br />
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<p>This isn’t  all that uncommon.  My understanding is that receivers were made in batches, generally first in, first out, but, on occasion, a batch would not have been completely exhausted, a few left over from time to time, these residuals could remain until all receivers were utilized, this sometimes being years later.<br />
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<p>Read Bert’s answer in post 3.  He said it better than I.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 00:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1892 rifle </title>
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<p><strong>James Fenderson said </strong><br />
Didn't realize they serial the receiver after they where batched thought where serial when the built the gun <br />
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<p>The receiver frames were serialized after all milling operations were complete and the rough polishing. After serialization, they were final polished and then sent to the bluing room.  After bluing (and oiling), they were placed in bins and sent to the assembly room.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 23:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James Fenderson on 1892 rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Didn't realize they serial the receiver after they where batched thought where serial when the built the gun </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 1892 rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert is correct.  The 1897 shotguns are another gun Madis messed up the manufacturing dates.  Way more antiques than he says.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 1892 rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>The Madis published DOM information is grossly erroneous for several different models (notably the Single Shot, 1892, and 1894).  Model 1892 serial numbers 94100 - 94199 were all manufactured in May 1898. </p>
<p>Because Winchester did not use a "first in, first out" assembly process, it is entirely possible to find older serialized receiver frames that were not fully assembled and sent to the warehouse for several years. The receiver frame in question undoubtedly sat in the bottom of a parts bin/rack for several years before it was eventually used to assemble a rifle.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on 1892 rifle </title>
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<p><strong>James Fenderson said </strong><br />
I looked at a 92 deluxe rifle yesterday 44 caliber serial number 941xx  with a factory letter said received in warehouse on november 19 1902 shipped from warehouse on nov 20 1902 . Madis book showes 1895 did a internet serial number search said 1898 i know Madis numbers are off a few years . Where was this resiver been hidding for four years<br />
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<p>This isn’t  all that uncommon.  My understanding is that receivers were made in batches, generally first in, first out, but, on occasion, a batch would not have been completely exhausted, a few left over from time to time, these residuals could remain until all receivers were utilized, this sometimes being years later.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Nothing real glaring in the auction pics, but it would be nice to have the gun in hand to examine the finish on the stock. Also, maybe just the pic makes the bolt look polished?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Morphy gun is similar to the RIA gun at the start of this thread, except it does have the plastic butt/machine cut checkering Tedk was talking about.</p>
<p>Other than the fact that I think their 98% condition estimate is a little generous (and maybe some added varnish), the only thing that jumps out to me on first look is that the barrel proof is VERY close to the wood.  That's often a sign of a replaced stock.  The fact that it's machine checkered isn't, of itself, a cause for concern (IMHO).  It's in the "overlap zone" where you can find both hand and machine checkered stocks (all with plastic butt plates).  But a LOT of 300 H&#038;H Magnums got recoil pads and replacing a stock to generate a "collector piece" isn't unusual.  The magazine well inletting of an H&#038;H stock is about 3/16" longer (in the front), but it's easy enough to convert a standard stock to H&#038;H with a rasp or Dremel (if you're motivated enough)...</p>
<p>What is triggering the "funny feeling"???</p>
<p>Just my take,</p>
<p>Lou</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 21:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James Fenderson on 1892 rifle </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I looked at a 92 deluxe rifle yesterday 44 caliber serial number 941xx  with a factory letter said received in warehouse on november 19 1902 shipped from warehouse on nov 20 1902 . Madis book showes 1895 did a internet serial number search said 1898 i know Madis numbers are off a few years . Where was this resiver been hidding for four years</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you both. I'm a lever guy, but big bore 70's intrigue me. But like Austin Powers once said" not my bag man." So I have to ask, does this one look legit? Personally I have a funny feeling about it.</p>
<p><a href="https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_C__PRE_64_WINCHESTER_MODEL_70_BOLT_ACTION_RIFLE_I-LOT655740.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_C__PRE_64_WINCHESTER_MODEL_70_BOLT_ACTION_RIFLE_I-LOT655740.aspx</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Louis Luttrell on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to H&#038;H actions on M70s, the revision to the blueprint that added the two D&#038;T holes to the receiver bridge was dated 11-28-50. </p>
<p>H&#038;H receivers were typically NOT D&#038;T until around s/n 170,000, which is well into the Type III oval tang receivers.  This pic I put together is kinda interesting (to me) b/c it shows H&#038;H receivers from pre-war through type III.  Note that the last of the transition receivers were finished and serialized well after the first of the oval tang receivers, and that none of them were factory D&#038;T before s/n 170,000.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bo Rich on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 19:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on Seeking opinions on this model 70</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I missed something here. Would a 1961 vintage M70 in 300 H&#038;H have been tapped for a scope?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Cody Letter help request </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>We're all looking forward to the photos.  I know I am.  This is an enjoyable mystery.</p>
<p>There are a couple possibilities and I am drawn to the most interesting one - two actions.</p>
<p>I do think, in all probability, there is one pistol grip action and two pistol grip stocks.</p>
<p>I suspect there is only one stock with the rifle now.  And if so, is it plain or fancy?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 14:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Cody Letter help request </title>
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<strong>TrevReiten said </strong><br />
I'll try posting this again, the first and attempt apparently didn't go through - not exactly a phone friendly forum 😁<br />
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<p><strong>For posting pics by iPhone:</strong></p>
<p>Press the + icon for new post.</p>
<p>Scroll down and press the “paper clip icon”</p>
<p>Scroll down and press “add files”</p>
<p>Scroll down and press “photo library” </p>
<p>Select your photos </p>
<p>Scroll down and press “Start upload”</p>
<p>Wait for pics to upload. Once pics are uploaded, then scroll up a bit and press double icon far right to post. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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