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                    <title>Jeremy P on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm going to play "check my skills" and see what the experts think, just to test my own thoughts on it! </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 14:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>helidriver72 on 1886 50-100 on GB</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1192817262" target="_blank">https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1192817262</a></p>
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<p>whats your guys opinion on the finishes of this rifle?</p>
<p>I’m by no means a player at this price point but just trying to learn.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 13:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1873man on Newly acquired 1873 </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The gun is a early 38 caliber rifle and when they first made them they came standard with a shotgun butt but some were ordered with rifle butt plates like yours. Later they switched the butt to a rifle butt like the rest of the rifles as standard. The gun has had the barrel cut short. The front sight is too close to the muzzle and there is no magazine band are the two items that gives it away and also the Cody letter tells us what the guns configuration was. The letter says its a rifle and does not say a barrel length so it is the standard length for a rifle which is 24".  Here is your picture of the end of the barrel and I have posted another picture what it should look like. </p>
<p>The gun looks like nice honest gun except for the cut barrel. It is now a shooter grade gun.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 02:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>rogertherelic on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the peep sights being used on the Model 64.  They were almost standard on the 219 ZIPPER and optional on the other calibers.  I have a Model 64 Special in 30 W.C.F. with the bolt peep and a 219 Zipper Special that also has the bolt peep.  RDB</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 01:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Cwright1016 on Newly acquired 1873 </title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
While I admittedly have not measured more than a handful of Model 1873 barrels, for the Single Shot (M1885), Models 1886, 1890, 1892, and 1894 they front sight dovetail cuts are precisely milled into the barrel .750" from the muzzle face (+/- .002").  The measurement is from the face of the muzzle to the forwardmost edge of the bottom edge of the milled dovetail cut.  For the magazine retaining ring, the measured distance from the muzzle face to the transverse pin should be 3.75" (again +/- a few thousandths).<br />
As Bob mentioned, the octagon barrels were tapered, and the taper rate could vary slightly from one barrel to the next.  On the standard weight (size) octagon barrels the tape rate was usually .005/per inch.  The Heavy and Extra Heavy barrels typically have a .0025/per inch taper rate.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Thanks Bert. Great info here.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 01:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Cwright1016 on Newly acquired 1873 </title>
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<p><strong>1873man said </strong><br />
They do have a taper but the tolerances are fairly wide but its could be a outside chance it would show what happened. Just like the barrel diameter tolerance the front sight placement has a tolerance. I've been seeing .725" to .790" from the muzzle to the closest cut at the bottom of the dovetail for 2nd and 3rd models. I checked a few first models and a 66 and they are more, .8" plus.  My email is below my picture. <br />
Bob<br />
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<p>Hi Bob,</p>
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<p>I sent you an email with photos and some dimensions. </p>
<p>Thanks </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 01:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
I bought Mike Richards bolt peep repair parts when he retired.  I have several of the windage blocks and apertures available.  The windage screw &#038; round slotted retaining is in the process of being reproduced along with the elevation wheel screw &#038; nut... they will hopefully be available after the first of the year.  The windage screw is double threaded and my machinist isn't happy with me right now.  You can substitute a #4 thread screw and use a hex nut (peening over the screw) as a fix (it's ugly, but works.) The machinist is also reproducing the bodies of the 98A and 98C... I sent him one of each for patterns... his machine can even reproduce the markings... I'm hoping they turn out nice as there are alot of guys in need.... cheers.  Ben<br />
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<p>Great idea, Ben. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I bought Mike Richards bolt peep repair parts when he retired.  I have several of the windage blocks and apertures available.  The windage screw &#038; round slotted retaining is in the process of being reproduced along with the elevation wheel screw &#038; nut... they will hopefully be available after the first of the year.  The windage screw is double threaded and my machinist isn't happy with me right now.  You can substitute a #4 thread screw and use a hex nut (peening over the screw) as a fix (it's ugly, but works.) The machinist is also reproducing the bodies of the 98A and 98C... I sent him one of each for patterns... his machine can even reproduce the markings... I'm hoping they turn out nice as there are alot of guys in need.... cheers.  Ben</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 20:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>M64lvr on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I've certainly never seen a Mod 64 with the Bolt Peep, don't recall ever seeing a pic of one, but I kinda always figured Winchester to have come through on this option. One reasons gotta love the Old Winchester's, they're almost unlimited offers, or custom offerings towards going the distance for customers! </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 19:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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<p><strong>Dave M. said </strong><br />
Will any of the modern peep sights, fit the Win. 98A peep sight? I mean the screw in peep that comes with different size holes.<br />
Like Lyman or Marbles?<br />
Thanks<br />
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<p>The thread pitch for the screw in aperture disc (eye-piece) is the same on the No. 98A and 98C bolt peeps sights as the Luman No. 2/2A tang sights.  However, the OD of the aperture is limited to the smaller discs due to the clearance.  I believe that the correct OD for the discs used on the No. 98A was .375".</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 17:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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<p><strong>M64lvr said </strong><br />
I certainly like the looks of the boltpeep, seems to appear a rugged advantage! Was the Boltpeep ever an option/standard available on the Mod 64?<br />
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<p>Yes it was. It was the standard sight for all of the Model 64 rifles chambered for the 219 Zipper (a lower cost 26-H Sporting open rear sight was optional).  The No. 98A bolt peep sight could have been special ordered and installed on any Model 64 rifle manufactured in the 1937 - 1952 time period.  I have thus far documented <strong>seven</strong> 30 WCF and 32 WS Model 64 rifles with a bolt peep sight.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 17:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Dave M. on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Will any of the modern peep sights, fit the Win. 98A peep sight? I mean the screw in peep that comes with different size holes.</p>
<p>Like Lyman or Marbles?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 17:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kujuak on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have 71s with both the old Lyman and Redfield sights. I find the REDfield sight more "elegant" (aesthically and in the finest of the machine work) and more pleasant to use.</p>
<p>I am still leery of the bolt peep regarding robustness.It sits higher above the receiver and looks like it is waiting to be damaged when going into or out of a horse borne scabbard. But it sure is pretty!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Bluing ?</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
the valuable lesson of what to look for next time. Most of us have been to this school.</p>
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<p>I been there, flunked the course, and came back a few times for summer school! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 14:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Bolt peep on late production Standard  Model 71?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was.</p>
<p>The bolt peep is very compact, sturdy and about as close to the eye as you can safely get. It leaves both receiver walls slick.</p>
<p>Although the 98A is not a finely adjustable micrometer sight -- more of a set it once and leave it alone device -- it was expensive to make, requiring a lot of machining. </p>
<p>At one point, NECG made a fine replica of the 98A but it was almost five hundred bucks years ago. </p>
<p>That is why the Lyman 56W and the Redfield 70 replaced it. It is probably my lack of experience but I've actually seen more Model 71 rifles with the Redfield 70 than the Lyman versions. Redfield was a catalogued option at one time, I believe. </p>
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