That's an interesting carbine. Just goes to show Winchester would build what the customer wanted in those days. How do you feel about the starting price of $5K?

Al

twobit said
Hello all,
We are fairly familiar when there is a bit of time between the serial number application date and when the actual fully assembled rifle finally made it into the warehouse and subsequently shipped out.  This example popped up on Gunbroker this morning.  The receiver was serialized on October 31, 1905 but it took almost 11 years before the receiver was used to make up the full rifle and was shipped out the next day.  The fact that the SRC has a set trigger may have something to do with this.  So far I have found 141 Model 1892 rifles with set triggers.  ONLY 8 of those are SRC or carbine configurations so they are definitely rare.  When I first saw the SN and then the fact that the caliber stamp and barrel address stamp were both on the left side of the barrel versus being located on the top of the barrel something did not fit.  Thankfully a copy of the letter proved the time lag.  The location of the caliber stamp is also VERY unique being below and forward of the rear sight dovetail versus behind it.  https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1198728119
Michael

Great post Michael.

How many have you documented with this forward caliber stamping? I have never seen one. 

Chris 

Anthony said
Michael,
I find both of these very interesting as you stated it does bring up some interesting point that we've hit on in the past.
Bert,
To me this 85 says a lot about Winchesters Quality control, that we don't see today. IMO!
 
tONY
  

This is the rifle and it is a 30 U.S. (a.k.a. 30-40 Krag).  I put the Lyman No. 103 Micrometer tang sight on it.  It never had a rear sight on it.

Bert

tsillik said
Letter says set trigger, but no set screw adjustment by trigger or no double trigger?
  

It has two repairs (R&R) listed in letter, it may have been trigger problems, and was replaced

I find both of these very interesting as you stated it does bring up some interesting point that we've hit on in the past.

Bert,

To me this 85 says a lot about Winchesters Quality control, that we don't see today. IMO!

tONY

This is one of my Single Shot rifles.  It apparently sat in the warehouse for so long (nearly 10-years) that it needed an "R&R" before it actually sold (Shipped) from the warehouse.

Bert

We are fairly familiar when there is a bit of time between the serial number application date and when the actual fully assembled rifle finally made it into the warehouse and subsequently shipped out.  This example popped up on Gunbroker this morning.  The receiver was serialized on October 31, 1905 but it took almost 11 years before the receiver was used to make up the full rifle and was shipped out the next day.  The fact that the SRC has a set trigger may have something to do with this.  So far I have found 141 Model 1892 rifles with set triggers.  ONLY 8 of those are SRC or carbine configurations so they are definitely rare.  When I first saw the SN and then the fact that the caliber stamp and barrel address stamp were both on the left side of the barrel versus being located on the top of the barrel something did not fit.  Thankfully a copy of the letter proved the time lag.  The location of the caliber stamp is also VERY unique being below and forward of the rear sight dovetail versus behind it.  https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/1198728119

Michael

Buck94 said

Rick C said
Just browsing this evening and found these rifles. Has anyone ever seen these for real or for sale somewhere. I assume they were produced 🤷🏼‍♂️.  From 1897 catalog. 
  

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/28/factory-engraved-gold-inlaid-winchester-deluxe-model-1894-rifle
heres the link so everyone can see what it hammers for. Projected 65k to 110k so a steal compared to the 5 million dollar Henry they sold. Will be another interesting auction to watch for sure!
  

My bet is that it goes for something north of the high end of the RIA estimate.

Bert

Rick C said
Just browsing this evening and found these rifles. Has anyone ever seen these for real or for sale somewhere. I assume they were produced 🤷🏼‍♂️.  From 1897 catalog. 

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4098/28/factory-engraved-gold-inlaid-winchester-deluxe-model-1894-rifle

heres the link so everyone can see what it hammers for. Projected 65k to 110k so a steal compared to the 5 million dollar Henry they sold. Will be another interesting auction to watch for sure!

oldcrankyyankee said
Good score. I love 45-90. my only problem is the one picture that shows the lever, it appears to be blued. A rifle of that vintage should be CC I believe.
  

Here’s a picture of the lever with the flash…