Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Rifles

Henry Mero on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:12:32 +0000

Here's My take on "fees" , eg: a Winchester with a real collector value of $10,000.00 sells at auction for that amount. breaking it down , sellers premium at 20% He gets $8000.00 , auction house $2000.00 , buyers premium at 25% house gets $2500.00. taxes at .13% (Canada), plus shipping handling etc. The house comes out with $4500.00+, the seller with $8000, the gov't with $1300.00, but the buyer, (poor guy) , ends up with $14125.00+ in a $10,,00.00 gun. The auction house is the only winner here, I, the buyer shoulda just offered the seller $9000.00 or payed the $10,000.00 and We'de both been ahead. Personal real experience, I just purchased a 1890 at R.I.A. for (hammer price) $2500.00 , total cost to Me $3,685.00 U.S.. I just bought a 1890 privately $2,975.00 shipped, total cost to Me $2,975.00U.S.. I think We should be talking with each other more and paying less attention to the auctions, We, sellers and buyers, would be a lot of $'s ahead and We would have a lot more gun shows again.

Buck1898 on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 02:32:46 +0000

Thank you for "educating" me regarding buyer's premium.

Buck

Rick C on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:42:31 +0000

Buck1898 said
What is a "buyer premium" ?

A buyer's premium is an extra percentage fee added to the winning bid(hammer price) at an auction which the buyer is required to pay.

426crown on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:41:13 +0000

When you buy from an auction house.....................

Buck1898 on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:13:35 +0000

What is a "buyer premium" ?

Rick C on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 11:37:22 +0000

I agree with Bert the 10k is reasonable for this one considering the special order features and (no buyer premium). Just finding a nice one available for sale “reasonably priced” is a task.

Bert H. on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 05:15:11 +0000

deerhunter said

Bert H. said

Zebulon said

Bert H. said
It is a handsome Model 1886 Semi-Deluxe Sporting Rifle, and with several very nice special order features. Definitely a rifle worthy of being added to a collection.
Bert


For educational purposes only because it is well above my pay grade, what do you think of the price?


I did not see the price tag on it?


$10,175.00

That is not an unreasonable asking price considering the configuration of the rifle.

deerhunter on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 03:08:27 +0000

Bert H. said

Zebulon said

Bert H. said
It is a handsome Model 1886 Semi-Deluxe Sporting Rifle, and with several very nice special order features. Definitely a rifle worthy of being added to a collection.
Bert


For educational purposes only because it is well above my pay grade, what do you think of the price?


I did not see the price tag on it?

$10,175.00

Bert H. on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 02:56:07 +0000

Zebulon said

Bert H. said
It is a handsome Model 1886 Semi-Deluxe Sporting Rifle, and with several very nice special order features. Definitely a rifle worthy of being added to a collection.
Bert

For educational purposes only because it is well above my pay grade, what do you think of the price?

I did not see the price tag on it?

Buck1898 on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 02:46:13 +0000

Thank you Bert.

Buck

Bert H. on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 02:38:39 +0000

Buck1898 said
What is different between semi-deluxe and deluxe?

The grade of the Walnut and the checkering pattern. Semi-deluxe (not a term Winchester used) typically have plain (straight) grained walnut stocks with I-pattern checkering. The Fancy Sporting Rifles will have 2X or 3X walnut stocks with H-pattern checkering.

Bert

Bert H. on Winchester reboring M94 .30-30 and .32 Special barrels to .32-40 and .38-55 in 1912

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 02:09:09 +0000

Interesting, but not too surprising. I suspect that more than just years 1911 & 1912 saw similar barrel rework. The trick to identifying the rebored barrels is rather simple... standard 32-40 and 38-55 barrels were not Nickel Steel. If you find a 1912 (or later) 32-40 or 38-55 with a Nickel Steel barrel, the odds are good that it was a rebored 30 WCF or 32 WS barrel.

Bert

steve004 on Winchester reboring M94 .30-30 and .32 Special barrels to .32-40 and .38-55 in 1912

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 01:01:32 +0000

I would love to know more detail about this. Apparently, in 1911 and early 1912, Winchester had a large quantify of .30 WCF and .32 W.S. barrels that did not pass the quality control process (I wish I knew why) and rather than discard them, they repurposed them by boring them to a larger chambering. So, the .30 WCF barrels got rebored to .32-40 and the .32 Special barrels got rebored to .38-55? Why weren't the .30 WCF barrels rebored to .32 Special? I've never heard of this before. I assume if they did indeed rebore these barrels, that work would be undetectable and we would have no way of knowing whcih 94's they went on?

This is, "From the McCracken Research Library" Fall, 2019 Winchester Collector Magazine:

Buck1898 on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:44:40 +0000

What is different between semi-deluxe and deluxe?

Zebulon on 1886 on GI-worth it ?

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:42:27 +0000

Bert H. said
It is a handsome Model 1886 Semi-Deluxe Sporting Rifle, and with several very nice special order features. Definitely a rifle worthy of being added to a collection.
Bert

For educational purposes only because it is well above my pay grade, what do you think of the price?