after posting a Nazi rifle. I feel the need to say hail Winchester.  The 95 in 30-06 would have defeated the Huns.  

For reasons unknown, the 32WS attachment is not loading/appearing-at least for me.

Regatds;

Ridge M.

Instead, the term "urban myth" is a lot more befitting.

My understanding is that the 32 Winchester Special was developed as an improvement (replacement) for the older 32-40 black powder cartridge.  The .32 caliber was long known and recognized for its inherent accuracy, but it had not yet been loaded to its potential.  The 32 W.S. cartridge was considerably and ballistically more potent than the older 32-40 cartridge.  Even in its smokeless W.H.V. factory loading, the 32-40 was nowhere near the potency of the 32 W.S. The attached picture is a scanned copy of the April 1905 Winchester catalog.

Bert

Jeremy P said

Bert H. said

  

What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to?  I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.
Bert
  

Didn't they start stamping "W" right there too around the 1920's when they switched to another bluing process....Du-Lite maybe? I forget which one.
  

No.  The "W" stamp was the first marking associated with a new bluing type (Du-Lite), and it was instituted in early 1939.  I am not aware of any other marking types used by Winchester for that purpose.

Bert

Bert H. said

What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to?  I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.
Bert
  

Didn't they start stamping "W" right there too around the 1920's when they switched to another bluing process....Du-Lite maybe? I forget which one.

Zebulon said
Any chance it will shoot around corners? I think there were some arc-shaped barrels developed for World War I trench warfare. Don't know how they shot but coyotes aren't quite smart enough to see the muzzle pointed at them even though you were in profile... 
  

Bill, think M-3 Grease gun. 

Hotchkiss10 said

Type 6 UT marking...

Thanks for the pictures.

Bert

Jeremy P said

Bert H. said
Winchester stamped the "W" on many thousands of Model 94 (and Model 64) receiver frames from February 1939 through February 1941.  Serial number 1230928 was a manufactured in June 1940, and it is more than likely a standard Carbine.  Can you post a picture of the factory roll marking on the upper tang?  I suspect that it has a Type 6 marking, but it could be a Type 7.
Bert
  

Bert, did this date range of "W" stampings have a different purpose from the earlier "bluing experiment" marks?
  

What "earlier bluing experiment marks" are you referring to?  I am not aware of any factory applied "bluing experiment" marks.

Bert

Zebulon said
Any chance it will shoot around corners? I think there were some arc-shaped barrels developed for World War I trench warfare. Don't know how they shot but coyotes aren't quite smart enough to see the muzzle pointed at them even though you were in profile... 
  

I think Mythbusters did an episode on curved shooting, based on a popular movie where the characters had that power. There was actually some validity to it if the angle was not too extreme, the could still shoot!

Bert H. said
Winchester stamped the "W" on many thousands of Model 94 (and Model 64) receiver frames from February 1939 through February 1941.  Serial number 1230928 was a manufactured in June 1940, and it is more than likely a standard Carbine.  Can you post a picture of the factory roll marking on the upper tang?  I suspect that it has a Type 6 marking, but it could be a Type 7.
Bert
  

Bert, did this date range of "W" stampings have a different purpose from the earlier "bluing experiment" marks?

My  "transition" rifle serial no. is 114177, and it came from Northern Nevada. I am not a real student of the Model 70, but very aware of what I admire in the pre-1963 rifles. Frank De Haas points out some of the areas that the early M 70 could have been improved in his "Bolt Action Rifles": like a real Mauser-style bolt shroud along with an extra gas raceway or extra left side receiver ring gas port.

That said, the  early Model 70 was  of a quality that its steel quality was never questioned like in some  Springfields or Mausers, while the fit and finish of the overall rifle along with its accuracy earned it the deserved title of "The Rifleman's Rifle". 

Maybe that is why I keep "rescuing" them from pawn shops, sporting goods stores, and riflesmiths. My collection runs the gamut from 270 WCF through .375 Holland and Holland. Strange as my tastes allow are  two re-chambered and re-rifled custom M 70s in 338-06 and 35 Whelen. One that kinda want back was a pre war heavy barreled Type 1 Super Grade 375 H&H in a wooden Winchester shipping box.

Lastly, a little different from O'Connor's views-wish John Olin and the management of Winchester had decided to turn the pre-63 Model 70 into a custom shop rifle and just raised the price to compete with Weatherby, not Remington...along with some additional calibers and custom orders-all at extra cost, of course.

But  I am just a hunter with good taste-what do I know about corporate costs and worn machinery.    Regards;

Ridge Marriott

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