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                    <title>Anthony on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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<strong>Rick Hill said </strong><br />
Just to add some content to the discussion:  Anthony referenced "the late Don Grove’s collection and what he was selling".   When I first met Don Grove about 30 years ago, I was impressed by the size of his offerings at the major gun shows and asked him "What do you collect"?  His answer was "My collection is on my tables" which was usually at least four or five 8 footers.  Don was not a collector.  He was in it for profit only!<br />
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<p>Rick,</p>
<p>I had spoken with him at different shows years ago also, but never bought anything from him. You're point is well taken on him not being a collector. Which really explains things to me.</p>
<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I think maybe the size of the picture flips them, as I've been told to use a smaller size picture, hence less bytes! I still struggle with it.</p>
<p>You're 95, which is in nice shape, shows how the sharp corners wear first.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 22:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Just snapped these photos a couple minutes ago for comparison.  Why they ended up flipped is beyond me.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 22:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 70 Question</title>
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<p><strong>Tedk said </strong><br />
I’ve chased PA and NY bucks for the last 45 years with a 270 topped with a 4x Leupold. Never needed or wanted anything else<br />
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<p>I think most of us could do that, although I found a low power optic to be useful when I was able to still hunt on forested land. On the few occasions I was able to jump a deer out of its bed, at close range, the lower the better. </p>
<p>When stand hunting overlooking a wide mesquite flat at last shooting light, when a buck stepped out of the treeline, the ones I observed were disinclined to wait for you to put binoculars away after counting points. On some Texas leases, you are <span style="text-decoration: underline"><em>required</em></span> to count points and inside spreads because the lease terms forbade shooting a buck outside certain limits. A variable scope of 6 to 8 power or so can be very useful.to avoid a mistake. And a surprising number of young male Whietails are hard to distinguish from does at last shooting light during doe season. </p>
<p>I think there's room for variables, for me the low to mid range.</p>
<p>Few of us rely on one rifle for game and varmints..But I know a dedicated coyote hunter who likes a .270 topped with a really big variable, using the high end most of time but occasionally cranking it way down when a coyote surprises him at close range, sees his mistake, and puts the hammer down. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 21:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Model 70 Question</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’ve chased PA and NY bucks for the last 45 years with a 270 topped with a 4x Leupold. Never needed or wanted anything else</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick Hill on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Just to add some content to the discussion:  Anthoney referenced <strong><em>"the late Don Grove’s collection and what he was selling"</em></strong>.   When I first met Don Grove about 30 years ago, I was impressed by the size of his offerings at the major gun shows and asked him "What do you collect"?  His answer was "My collection is on my tables" which was usually at least four or five 8 footers.  Don was not a collector.  He was in it for profit only!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 70 Question</title>
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Bert H. said<br />
90% of all Blacktail deer are shot at &#060;75 yds.  My rifle was a Model 54 30-06 with a Lyman Alaskan 2.5X post-reticle scope.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>One November some years ago, my wife and I drove out the Sunset Highway from Portland to the coast and stayed for a week at the old Wheeler Inn. Using Wheeler as a base, we explored up and down the coast highway as far North as Astoria. On the drive to Wheeler we learned the season had opened for Shiras moose as well as the little Blacktail deer. Maybe Roosevelt Elk as well. Cars and trucks parked all along the roads. <br />
Being a collector of the works of the late Francis Sell of Riverton, Oregon, I knew from his photographs the coastal forests were dense. But I was not prepared for such a Prehistoric wilderness of close-growing, gigantic trees. The double canopy rainforest kept out what little Sunlight filtered through the overcast, making it dark at midday. Standing on the edge of the roads, i couldn't see fifty feet into the treeline, much less yards.  <br />
I'm certain there are clearings that offer longer opportunities but, if anything, I think 4X is too much for hunting a lot of that terrain. If I were going to hunt those hills,  a 2.5 to 3 fixed power optic would the most I would consider, based on my experience in much less dense-wooded Southeast Texas.  However, if I could recommend any scope for your rifle, it would be a favorite, very bright Leupold of mine:   The current version of the line once called the VariX III - with the brightest and hardest coatings on all of its component lenses -- specifically the 1.75X - 6X variable, which has a 1" tube and a 32mm objective lens.<br />
That scope can be mounted as low as your current safety will allow, although as Lou says,  I would myself have my gunsmith locate and install a Tilden safety [keeping the original part safe]  so I could mount the scope in low rings rather than medium. My 1950 Super Grade needs low rings and scope bells that do not resemble syrup buckets. I think yours does too. <br />
You've got all the rifle you need but it may be a bit overscoped, not underscoped, for the hunting you have in mind. <br />
Thanks very much for sharing your wonderful inheritance with us. <br />
PS.  I've attached a photo of the 1.75 - 6,  even though is currently doing duty on a #1 Hornet.<br />
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<p>I have a very nice Leupold M8-4X mounted on my other 30-06 (a 1966 Remington Model 742 Woodsmaster 150th Anniversary).<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>I think the M8 4X is very hard to beat and has an advantage over many of the newer scopes. I have one on a 1951 Savage 99R .300 and that long tube and long eye relief is mighty helpful for mounting on a rifle with the mount bases far apart. And Leupold scopes generally and the fixed power ones in particular, don't leak. As much as I like to see vintage optics on an old rifle,  when it's 15F and icy, the old Weavers turn opaque. At least my K4 did. </p>
<p>In the mid-Fifties, our half-Comanche neighbor had just come back from a successful Central Texas deer hunt and was showing several neighborhood men his new Remington 740 Woodsmaster, the basic ADL grade 30/06.  This was a man born to a family so large and poor that when the Depression hit West Texas, there was not enough food. He was only 16 when his father gave him a pony and the only guns they owned, a Winchester 32/20 and a Colt SAA 38/40, and with tears in his eyes sent his son off to seek his fortune. </p>
<p>The Comanche are many things but not stupid. After serving in the Pacific during WWII with an M1 Garand, our half breed neighbor developed a powerful affection for the 30/06 and gas operated rifles. If he wasn't the first in town to buy the new Remington, he was close behind. </p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Zebulon! I really appreciate the advice, and especially you sharing your story.</p>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>For me it's what I'm NOT seeing. With the handling marks on the wood and the wear on the Lyman receiver sight I expect to see some wear on the high spots and edges of the receiver and I'm not seeing them. As pointed out above the gun has been apart and the wood finish freshened up a bit. Somebody did a good job refinishing the metal but for me it doesn't pass the "does it match?" test. Screws are a bit too nice with none of the gunk we like to see on an honest gun. Nice work. Nice pics. I'm wondering why we're not seeing the top of the receiver. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on 92 Trapper at auction</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Besides the opinions, our members also provided us with some great additional information and comparisons that many of us will use again and again!</p>
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<p>It will be interesting to see where it ends up on the $$$$ spectrum!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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Wood and metal redone.<br />
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<p>Steve,</p>
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<p>You say that with certainty! I'm confident in you're reply!</p>
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<p>Jeremy P said<br />
For any in the know, is that caliber stamp of the correct font/location/style for these?<br />
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<p>As far as I can tell for the "Nickle steel Barrel', and with that serial number verifying it's year and mfg. time period of 1924.<br />
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Tony<br />
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<p>Well, I didn't do the refinishing personally... so I can't say with that level of confidence....</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Winchester 1895, refinished, or not?</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
Wood and metal redone.<br />
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<p>Steve,</p>
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<p>You say that with certainty! I'm confident in you're reply!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong><br />
For any in the know, is that caliber stamp of the correct font/location/style for these?<br />
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<p>As far as I can tell for the "Nickle steel Barrel', and with that serial number verifying it's year and mfg. time period of 1924.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on 92 Trapper at auction</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm on the same page with Michael.  I was going to agree it was worth between $6,000 and $20,000.  I'm going to amend that to say it's worth between $8,440 and $20,000 (because the bidding is at $8,440 as I type this).</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 70 Question</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong></p>
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Bert H. said<br />
90% of all Blacktail deer are shot at &#060;75 yds.  My rifle was a Model 54 30-06 with a Lyman Alaskan 2.5X post-reticle scope.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>One November some years ago, my wife and I drove out the Sunset Highway from Portland to the coast and stayed for a week at the old Wheeler Inn. Using Wheeler as a base, we explored up and down the coast highway as far North as Astoria. On the drive to Wheeler we learned the season had opened for Shiras moose as well as the little Blacktail deer. Maybe Roosevelt Elk as well. Cars and trucks parked all along the roads. <br />
Being a collector of the works of the late Francis Sell of Riverton, Oregon, I knew from his photographs the coastal forests were dense. But I was not prepared for such a Prehistoric wilderness of close-growing, gigantic trees. The double canopy rainforest kept out what little Sunlight filtered through the overcast, making it dark at midday. Standing on the edge of the roads, i couldn't see fifty feet into the treeline, much less yards.  <br />
I'm certain there are clearings that offer longer opportunities but, if anything, I think 4X is too much for hunting a lot of that terrain. If I were going to hunt those hills,  a 2.5 to 3 fixed power optic would the most I would consider, based on my experience in much less dense-wooded Southeast Texas.  However, if I could recommend any scope for your rifle, it would be a favorite, very bright Leupold of mine:   The current version of the line once called the VariX III - with the brightest and hardest coatings on all of its component lenses -- specifically the 1.75X - 6X variable, which has a 1" tube and a 32mm objective lens.<br />
That scope can be mounted as low as your current safety will allow, although as Lou says,  I would myself have my gunsmith locate and install a Tilden safety [keeping the original part safe]  so I could mount the scope in low rings rather than medium. My 1950 Super Grade needs low rings and scope bells that do not resemble syrup buckets. I think yours does too. <br />
You've got all the rifle you need but it may be a bit overscoped, not underscoped, for the hunting you have in mind. <br />
Thanks very much for sharing your wonderful inheritance with us. <br />
PS.  I've attached a photo of the 1.75 - 6,  even though is currently doing duty on a #1 Hornet.<br />
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<p>I have a very nice Leupold M8-4X mounted on my other 30-06 (a 1966 Remington Model 742 <em>Woodsmaster</em> 150th Anniversary).</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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<strong>Bert H. said </strong><br />
90% of all Blacktail deer are shot at &#060;75 yds.  My rifle was a Model 54 30-06 with a Lyman Alaskan 2.5X post-reticle scope.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>One November some years ago, my wife and I drove out the Sunset Highway from Portland to the coast and stayed for a week at the old Wheeler Inn. Using Wheeler as a base, we explored up and down the coast highway as far North as Astoria. On the drive to Wheeler we learned the season had opened for Shiras moose as well as the little Blacktail deer. Maybe Roosevelt Elk as well. Cars and trucks parked all along the roads. </p>
<p>Being a collector of the works of the late Francis Sell of Riverton, Oregon, I knew from his photographs the coastal forests were dense. But I was not prepared for such a Prehistoric wilderness of close-growing, gigantic trees. The double canopy rainforest kept out what little Sunlight filtered through the overcast, making it dark at midday. Standing on the edge of the roads, i couldn't see fifty <em>feet </em>into the treeline, much less yards.  </p>
<p>I'm certain there are clearings that offer longer opportunities but, if anything, I think 4X is too much for hunting a lot of that terrain. If I were going to hunt those hills,  a 2.5 to 3 fixed power optic would the most I would consider, based on my experience in much less dense-wooded Southeast Texas.  However, if I could recommend any scope for your rifle, it would be a favorite, very bright Leupold of mine:   The current version of the line once called the <em>VariX III - </em>with the brightest and hardest coatings on <em>all </em>of its component lenses -- specifically the 1.75X - 6X variable, which has a 1" tube and a 32mm objective lens.</p>
<p>That scope can be mounted as low as your current safety will allow, although as Lou says,  I would myself have my gunsmith locate and install a Tilden safety [keeping the original part safe]  so I could mount the scope in low rings rather than medium. My 1950 Super Grade needs low rings and scope bells that do not resemble syrup buckets. I think yours does too. </p>
<p>You've got all the rifle you need but it may be a bit overscoped, not underscoped, for the hunting you have in mind. </p>
<p>Thanks very much for sharing your wonderful inheritance with us. </p>
<p>PS.  I've attached a photo of the 1.75 - 6,  even though is currently doing duty on a #1 Hornet. <img data-upload="1" data-width="348" data-height="697" title="Featherweight-with-Uvalde-buck-Copy2.jpg" alt="Featherweight-with-Uvalde-buck-Copy2.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/08/Featherweight-with-Uvalde-buck-Copy2.jpg" /></p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>For any in the know, is that caliber stamp of the correct font/location/style for these?</p>
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