Just want to provide ad FYI update... today I reached the 35,000 guns surveyed mark in this survey! I have been working on this survey for just over 21-consecutuve years now, and I am planning to continue it for at least 5 more years, or until I reach 50,000 surveyed specimens.

At this point, I especially want to sincerely thank each and every one of you who has contributed to this survey thus far, and to encourage more of you to do so in the future.

As a result of all the data that has been compiled & documented thus far in this survey (which includes all of the Model 55 and Model 64 Rifles that were serialized in the Model 94 serial range), many new facts have emerged, several urban myths debunked, and of great importance, a much, much clearer picture of the factory production statistics for the 2,246,012 serial numbers for which there are No surviving factory ledger records now exists.  

As always, I am ready to answer any questions relating to this survey.

Bert - WACA Historian

I am glad to provide a new 61 for the survey.  Thank you for all the work you put into the surveys.

Kevin 

Colsuper said
Michael,
picked up a Model 61 today at a local auction:
Serial #76661
Octagon barrel 
.22 LONG R.
Tang is not tapped
No W 
Checkered steel butt plate 
Non grooved receiver 
Flat muzzle face 
Hopefully this is a new rifle for the survey.
  

It is in fact a new addition to my data.  I now have 10,510 rifles cataloged and have begun doing statistical work and building a reference website that with distill all the info I have gathered.  Thanks so much for the help.  I might have it up by summers end if fly fishing does not interfere too much!

The last receiver in the polishing room in 1946 was 76700.  Most likely your rifle was fully assembled in early 1947.

picked up a Model 61 today at a local auction:

Serial #76661

Octagon barrel 

.22 LONG R.

Tang is not tapped

No W 

Checkered steel butt plate 

Non grooved receiver 

Flat muzzle face 

Hopefully this is a new rifle for the survey.

Yours is a new entry in the survey.  Is it .22 Short or .22 Long Rifle?

To add photos you have to host them on a different host and place a link here you can also email them to me directly at Abendshien@aol dot com and I can post them for you.

Best Regards,

Serial number 415

Checkered grip only

Peep sight, insert in rear dovetail. 

Not Stainless barrel

Blued

barrel marked B 217 26

Have some great photos, cant seem do share them here

1badf350 said
Here’s one Bert
serial 1499038
30WCF 
serrated hammer
no slot in tube cap
Receiver tang looks type 2 in my picture.
I know it should theoretically have a type 3. Could be the angle of my picture. 
’ll have to go back and verify. It’s at a local gun shop. Not mine…yet. 

Thanks, and yes, it should be a Type 3 receiver frame.

Bert

serial 1499038

30WCF 

serrated hammer

no slot in tube cap

Receiver tang looks type 2 in my picture.

I know it should theoretically have a type 3. Could be the angle of my picture. 
’ll have to go back and verify. It’s at a local gun shop. Not mine…yet. 

Bert H. said

Buck1967 said
Bert 611020 was actually 311020 so not in the range you need
1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel
1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel
Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks
  

Something is not correct... 24-inch barrels were discontinued well before serial number 1389072 was manufactured.  The barrel length should be 20-inchs.
  

Hi Bert,

One of these is correct. I'll let you decide...

1. April Fools

2. Congrats, You passed the test! The WACA Board just wanted me to make sure you weren't slipping as the official Historian 🙂

3. I screwed up and you are correct they are both 20 inch! 

Happy Easter everyone! Enjoy the holiday and hopefully great shooting weather for everyone!

Buck1967 said
Bert 611020 was actually 311020 so not in the range you need
1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel
1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel
Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks
  

Something is not correct... 24-inch barrels were discontinued well before serial number 1389072 was manufactured.  The barrel length should be 20-inchs.

1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel

1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel

Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks

Buck1967 said

Bert H. said

mike webb said
Hi Bert,
Haven't been on the forum in a long while. Picked up an 1894 saddle ring carbine for your survey. It a .38/55, half magazine, larger style shotgun butt, hard rubber buttplate.  Serial number 308788. May not be recorded yet.
  

It is not in the serial range for my survey... I am looking for serial numbers in the 1 - 7999, and 354000 - 2600011 ranges.
Bert
  

Hi Bert,
I have the ones below. If you don't already have them I'm happy to give you the data you need just let me know which ones you need. thanks, Buck

8

611,020

861,806

1,079,630

1,389,072

1,714,513

1,789,753

2,191,041

I would like the details for the following;

611020

1389072

1789753

Thanks,

Bert

Bert H. said

mike webb said
Hi Bert,
Haven't been on the forum in a long while. Picked up an 1894 saddle ring carbine for your survey. It a .38/55, half magazine, larger style shotgun butt, hard rubber buttplate.  Serial number 308788. May not be recorded yet.
  

It is not in the serial range for my survey... I am looking for serial numbers in the 1 - 7999, and 354000 - 2600011 ranges.
Bert
  

Hi Bert,

I have the ones below. If you don't already have them I'm happy to give you the data you need just let me know which ones you need. thanks, Buck