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                    <title>twobit on Model 61 Research Survey</title>
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<p><strong>Colsuper said </strong><br />
Michael,<br />
picked up a Model 61 today at a local auction:<br />
Serial #76661<br />
Octagon barrel <br />
.22 LONG R.<br />
Tang is not tapped<br />
No W <br />
Checkered steel butt plate <br />
Non grooved receiver <br />
Flat muzzle face <br />
Hopefully this is a new rifle for the survey.<br />
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<p>It is in fact a new addition to my data.  I now have 10,510 rifles cataloged and have begun doing statistical work and building a reference website that with distill all the info I have gathered.  Thanks so much for the help.  I might have it up by summers end if fly fishing does not interfere too much!</p>
<p>The last receiver in the polishing room in 1946 was 76700.  Most likely your rifle was fully assembled in <span style="text-decoration: underline">early</span> 1947.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 09:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Colsuper on Model 61 Research Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>picked up a Model 61 today at a local auction:</p>
<p>Serial #76661</p>
<p>Octagon barrel </p>
<p>.22 LONG R.</p>
<p>Tang is not tapped</p>
<p>No W </p>
<p>Checkered steel butt plate </p>
<p>Non grooved receiver </p>
<p>Flat muzzle face </p>
<p>Hopefully this is a new rifle for the survey.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2026 23:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Model 56/57 Research Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome and thanks for the addition!</p>
<p>Yours is a new entry in the survey. <strong> Is it .22 Short or .22 Long Rifle?</strong></p>
<p>To add photos you have to host them on a different host and place a link here you can also email them to me directly at Abendshien@aol dot com and I can post them for you.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Motorman59 on Model 56/57 Research Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>New member here. Want to add my model 56:</p>
<p>Serial number 415</p>
<p>Checkered grip only</p>
<p>Peep sight, insert in rear dovetail. </p>
<p>Not Stainless barrel</p>
<p>Blued</p>
<p>barrel marked B 217 26</p>
<p>Have some great photos, cant seem do share them here</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1badf350 on Model 94 Flat Band Carbine survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Just verified it is type 3 receiver </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 94 Flat Band Carbine survey</title>
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<p><strong>1badf350 said </strong><br />
Here’s one Bert<br />
serial 1499038<br />
30WCF <br />
serrated hammer<br />
no slot in tube cap<br />
Receiver tang looks type 2 in my picture.<br />
I know it should theoretically have a type 3. Could be the angle of my picture. <br />
’ll have to go back and verify. It’s at a local gun shop. Not mine…yet. </p>
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<p>Thanks, and yes, it should be a Type 3 receiver frame.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 09:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>1badf350 on Model 94 Flat Band Carbine survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here’s one Bert</p>
<p>serial 1499038</p>
<p>30WCF </p>
<p>serrated hammer</p>
<p>no slot in tube cap</p>
<p>Receiver tang looks type 2 in my picture.</p>
<p>I know it should theoretically have a type 3. Could be the angle of my picture. <br />
’ll have to go back and verify. It’s at a local gun shop. Not mine…yet. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 21:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>Buck1967 said<br />
Bert 611020 was actually 311020 so not in the range you need<br />
1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel<br />
1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel<br />
Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks<br />
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<p>Something is not correct... 24-inch barrels were discontinued well before serial number 1389072 was manufactured.  The barrel length should be 20-inchs.<br />
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<p>Hi Bert,</p>
<p>One of these is correct. I'll let you decide...</p>
<p>1. April Fools</p>
<p>2. Congrats, You passed the test! The WACA Board just wanted me to make sure you weren't slipping as the official Historian 🙂</p>
<p>3. I screwed up and you are correct they are both 20 inch! </p>
<p>Happy Easter everyone! Enjoy the holiday and hopefully great shooting weather for everyone!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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<p><strong>Buck1967 said </strong><br />
Bert 611020 was actually 311020 so not in the range you need<br />
1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel<br />
1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel<br />
Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks<br />
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<p>Something is not correct... 24-inch barrels were discontinued well before serial number 1389072 was manufactured.  The barrel length should be 20-inchs.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 01:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bert 611020 was actually 311020 so not in the range you need</p>
<p>1389072 is a 30WCF with a 24 inch barrel</p>
<p>1789753 is a 30-30 with a 24 inch barrel</p>
<p>Both are Engraved. The wood appears to be deluxe and is checkered. Let me know if you need anything else. thanks</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 20:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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<p><strong>Buck1967 said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>mike webb said<br />
Hi Bert,<br />
Haven't been on the forum in a long while. Picked up an 1894 saddle ring carbine for your survey. It a .38/55, half magazine, larger style shotgun butt, hard rubber buttplate.  Serial number 308788. May not be recorded yet.<br />
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<p>It is not in the serial range for my survey... I am looking for serial numbers in the 1 - 7999, and 354000 - 2600011 ranges.<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>Hi Bert,<br />
I have the ones below. If you don't already have them I'm happy to give you the data you need just let me know which ones you need. thanks, Buck</p>
<p>8</p>
<p>611,020</p>
<p>861,806</p>
<p>1,079,630</p>
<p>1,389,072</p>
<p>1,714,513</p>
<p>1,789,753</p>
<p>2,191,041</p>
<p>  </p>
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<p>I would like the details for the following;</p>
<p>611020</p>
<p>1389072</p>
<p>1789753</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 23:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Model 1895 Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>mike webb said<br />
Hi Bert,<br />
Haven't been on the forum in a long while. Picked up an 1894 saddle ring carbine for your survey. It a .38/55, half magazine, larger style shotgun butt, hard rubber buttplate.  Serial number 308788. May not be recorded yet.<br />
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<p>It is not in the serial range for my survey... I am looking for serial numbers in the 1 - 7999, and 354000 - 2600011 ranges.<br />
Bert<br />
  </p>
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<p>Hi Bert,</p>
<p>I have the ones below. If you don't already have them I'm happy to give you the data you need just let me know which ones you need. thanks, Buck</p>
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<td width="70">8</td>
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<td>1,079,630</td>
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<td>1,389,072</td>
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<td>1,714,513</td>
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<td>1,789,753</td>
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<td>2,191,041</td>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Flash on Model 1894 Research Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Bert, </p>
<p>I've sent you a few things in the past, this gun doesn't fit into the parameters of this thread, but I couldn't find a general 1894 one.</p>
<p>This gun is an earlier one, sn 37800, 38-55, 28" hex, full length tube, crescent butt plate rifle. I'm not sure what else is important, let me know what else you need.</p>
<p>Mark<img data-upload="1" data-width="4026" data-height="1970" title="IMG_1471.jpg" alt="IMG_1471.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/flash/2026/03/IMG_1471.jpg" width="100" height="48" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Flash on Model 1895 Survey</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brad,</p>
<p>I recently obtained this rifle thought you may be able to use it's statistics.</p>
<p>Model 1895, sn 108471, 24" round barrel, 30-06, Lyman #21, standard rifle, rubber shotgun butt plate, fold up 2 leaf rear dovetail mount sight</p>
<p>I think that's the pertinent information, if you need anything else let me know.</p>
<p>Mark<img data-upload="1" data-width="4014" data-height="2290" title="IMG_1439.jpg" alt="IMG_1439.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/flash/2026/03/IMG_1439.jpg" width="100" height="57" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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