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                    <title>Nodrog on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Tom D said </strong><br />
 Nodrog, does the trench gun have a plugged front bead sight on the barrel?<br />
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<p>Here is a picture of the front sight. <img data-upload="1" data-width="3000" data-height="2250" title="20260921_164308.jpg" alt="20260921_164308.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/nodrog/2026/09/20260921_164308.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 05:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>Tom D said </strong><br />
 Nodrog, does the trench gun have a plugged front bead sight on the barrel?<br />
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<p>I believe it does, I will not be able to see until Tuesday or Wednesday. I will let you know if it doesn't. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 06:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Nodrog on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>Nodrog said </p>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>Nodrog said<br />
Thank you Bert for your help!  Can you give me a ball park price range based on the pictures?<br />
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<p>$4,500 - $6,000<br />
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<p>Thank you, I am looking forward to buying it now. Any good books you could recommend would be appreciated. Have a good day!<br />
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<p>Bruce N. Canfield's Complete Guide to United States Military Combat Shotguns: Bruce N. Canfield: 9781931464284: Amazon.com: Books<br />
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<p>I ordered it, thank you.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 06:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bill Hanzel on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am no expert but the flames on the barrel flaming bomb look odd</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Nodrog said </strong></p>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>Nodrog said<br />
Thank you Bert for your help!  Can you give me a ball park price range based on the pictures?<br />
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<p>$4,500 - $6,000<br />
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<p>Thank you, I am looking forward to buying it now. Any good books you could recommend would be appreciated. Have a good day!<br />
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<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Canfields-Complete-United-Military-Shotguns/dp/1931464286?ref_=ast_author_mpb" target="_blank">Bruce N. Canfield's Complete Guide to United States Military Combat Shotguns: Bruce N. Canfield: 9781931464284: Amazon.com: Books</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tom D on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p> Nodrog, does the trench gun have a plugged front bead sight on the barrel?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 18:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Nodrog on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>Nodrog said<br />
Thank you Bert for your help!  Can you give me a ball park price range based on the pictures?<br />
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<p>$4,500 - $6,000<br />
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<p>Thank you, I am looking forward to buying it now. Any good books you could recommend would be appreciated. Have a good day!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Nodrog said </strong><br />
Thank you Bert for your help!  Can you give me a ball park price range based on the pictures?<br />
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<p>$4,500 - $6,000</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 17:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bert for your help!  Can you give me a ball park price range based on the pictures?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Nodrog said </strong></p>
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<p>It appears to be an authentic 1943 production Model 97 Trench Gun.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 07:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 04:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am looking at purchasing what is supposed to be a Winchester 1897 trench gun. The serial number is E955494. I have pictures that I will post. I would like help verifying it before I purchase it. Thanks!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2026 03:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rd1953 on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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Thank you Bert for the confirmation. Other than using it for a conversation piece I will use it for a trench gun clone. I think that would be the best use of the receiver and I can enjoy a 97 trench gun. Roger</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on WWI &#038; WWII Model 1897/97 Trench Gun Production dates??</title>
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<p><strong>Rd1953 said </strong><br />
Hello,<br />
I aqquried a model 97 Winchester receiver serial number E953659. The receiver is in the white. I have a 1942 97 that I was thinking of using as a donor for a clone as I doubt I could find original parts. The cost for a finished clone would be about $2500. Any reccomendations on a project such as this? </p>
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<p>The receiver frame you have with S/N 953659 was most likely originally a WW II Trench Gun, and it is actually not "in the white".  It still has approximately 70% of the factory bluing still on it.  Per the factory records, it was manufactured in February 1943.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 06:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I aqquried a model 97 Winchester receiver serial number E953659. The receiver is in the white. I have a 1942 97 that I was thinking of using as a donor for a clone as I doubt I could find original parts. The cost for a finished clone would be about $2500. Any reccomendations on a project such as this? <a href="https://postimg.cc/621HVhhy" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/brqKhCDH/Screenshot-20260810-205535-Chrome.jpg" width="1080" alt="https://i.postimg.cc/brqKhCDH/Screenshot-20260810-205535-Chrome.jpg" /></a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 06:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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