Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester Memorabilia

Blue Ridge Parson on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 16:01:37 +0000

Mike is absolutely right.

BRP

TXGunNut on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 15:59:52 +0000

86Win said
Wouldn't Winchester have to sue the manufacturer of these? Is there any makers info on them? No patent dates or trademark of the maker. Would the WACA label be considered the maker? I think you are overly concerned as Winchester wouldn't know who to sue.

I think the goal here is to avoid conflict of any kind. Winchester (as we know it today) has been good to WACA and no one wants to jeopardize that.

Mike

86Win on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 15:42:22 +0000

Wouldn't Winchester have to sue the manufacturer of these? Is there any makers info on them? No patent dates or trademark of the maker. Would the WACA label be considered the maker? I think you are overly concerned as Winchester wouldn't know who to sue.

Zebulon on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 14:54:48 +0000

You didn't hear it from me BUT, sometimes it's easier to ask forgiveness afterward than permission beforehand.

I note that an Olin/Winchester Ammunition officer is an honorary WACA member, not a Browning representative. Olin owns the marks. We are allowed to buy guns to auction from Browning but it is only a licensee.

If I were like Yertle the Turtle, king of all I surveyed, I would have a quiet conversation with my contact at Olin and say WACA has been given 75 possibly infringing gun racks we.want to dispose of. Do you want any royalty?

Important Safety Tip: the foregoing adage does not apply to male/female relationships. Failing to obtain prior permission can get you cut, shot, or a long stretch of making license plates.

The issue with these racks, for those of us living far away, is going to be packing and shipping. If they are not disposed of at shows and the buyer has to hump it home his ownself.

To illustrate: I just placed an order for a three-pack of Cameron Rifle Kits and a five-pack of the plain boxes, for $158 USD. However, the cheapest low and slow shipping from Ohio was $162, essentially doubling the price. And we're just talking cardboard.

Henry Mero on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:36:49 +0000

My take ,(for what it's worth), is just sell the "blessed" things, it's not like there's 7500 of 'em or they're going in to production and cutting in to someone's business. Plus I believe You said the original owner was deceased quite a while back. I have to wonder how many manufactureres of the "fake" Winchesters that are floating around bothered to get an exemption from the companies patent rights

Ben on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 03:49:45 +0000

I confirm my request to purchase 5... not a bid, that was Burt... if I need to beat Burt's "bid", just let me know. 🙂

TXGunNut on WACA Gun Racks?

Wed, 14 Oct 2026 01:59:05 +0000

Good point about the Winchester trademarks, I'm sure someone still owns all of them. If the decals were licensed that may simplify things but things are never as simple as they seem to me. I've been dealing with bureaucrats in several agencies and NGO's on a very intensive basis for over two years but I've still managed to cling to a few threads of optimism.

Mike

oldcrankyyankee on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 21:20:36 +0000

Buck94 said

TXGunNut said
Buck94-
I wonder if possibly the WACA board could agree to a nominal royalty fee and allow you to do with them as you wish. That would free WACA from marketing, storing, selling and shipping these racks. I'd call that a win-win for all involved.

Mike

Mike, that would be a Bert and Vinny call but doubtful and keep in mind the Winchester logo was also illegally used so Vinny has to clear it with them as well and I imagine WACA handling them is an easier sale to Winchester than a rogue profiteer. Vinny did tell me Winchester can be slow to move, so no fault of WACA but imagine this will take some time to resolve itself.

After dealing with a corporate entity for longer that I care to think about, my guess is I will be dead and buried before they move on a decision. Sorry just my yankee opionion.

Buck94 on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 17:47:05 +0000

TXGunNut said
Buck94-
I wonder if possibly the WACA board could agree to a nominal royalty fee and allow you to do with them as you wish. That would free WACA from marketing, storing, selling and shipping these racks. I'd call that a win-win for all involved.

Mike

Mike, that would be a Bert and Vinny call but doubtful and keep in mind the Winchester logo was also illegally used so Vinny has to clear it with them as well and I imagine WACA handling them is an easier sale to Winchester than a rogue profiteer. Vinny did tell me Winchester can be slow to move, so no fault of WACA but imagine this will take some time to resolve itself.

TXGunNut on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 14:48:52 +0000

Buck94-

I wonder if possibly the WACA board could agree to a nominal royalty fee and allow you to do with them as you wish. That would free WACA from marketing, storing, selling and shipping these racks. I'd call that a win-win for all involved.

Mike

Henry Mero on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 11:08:17 +0000

And I'm still needin' a couple. I think they would be wonderful racks for some of the Commemorative guns.

Bert H. on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 01:44:37 +0000

Darrin Smith said

Did I mention real men collect and shoot single shots?
Darrin

You just got my vote

Darrin Smith on WACA Gun Racks?

Tue, 13 Oct 2026 01:38:18 +0000

By my unofficial count 34 are spoken for, depending if Ben reiterated his bid for 5 or not as i didn't review. That said I'd like to be in the consideration for 2 of the racks however the format plays out by the board of directors.

Did I mention real men collect and shoot single shots?

Darrin

86Win on WACA Gun Racks?

Mon, 12 Oct 2026 00:47:15 +0000

might I suggest if WACA gets these the board determines a price per each. There might be more than 75 that want one. Have those that want one submit their name for a drawing. This would seem fair to me. I would like one if I were lucky.

Just a thought. Don

Colsuper on WACA Gun Racks?

Mon, 12 Oct 2026 00:29:30 +0000

Buck,

I would agree with BRP-your honesty and integrity is to be commended.

Kevin