oldcrankyyankee said
Bert did you see the 1885 in 577 eley yet?
  

I did... that was one of Winchester's Ballistic lab rifles, used for ammunition testing.  I even have a single cartridge for it!

For comparison purposes, the cartridge on the left is a .577 Eley, center is a 50-110 Ex, and a 50-95 Express on the right. The second picture is the .577 Eley next to a 22 CB (the largest and the smallest cartridges made for the Single Shot).

Bert

Bert H. said

oldcrankyyankee said
I like Ben's idea. I'll take 32, 33, and 45, and maybe Buck could fudge 45 to say 45-90!
Btw you two supposed old farts, Don't forget I got to meet each of you last year at Cody and neither one of you looked like there where 6 people ready to carry the box for you!!!!
  

I made no claim that I was in need of pall bearers anytime soon... in fact just the opposite!  I fully plan to be a pain in my family's fanny for another 40+ years... the only question is whether or not the Old Dodge is still on 4-wheel and running!
Bert
  

At this point that old Dodge will out last all of us! and probably still run after the magnetic pulse hits us.

oldcrankyyankee said
I like Ben's idea. I'll take 32, 33, and 45, and maybe Buck could fudge 45 to say 45-90!
Btw you two supposed old farts, Don't forget I got to meet each of you last year at Cody and neither one of you looked like there where 6 people ready to carry the box for you!!!!
  

I made no claim that I was in need of pall bearers anytime soon... in fact just the opposite!  I fully plan to be a pain in my family's fanny for another 40+ years... the only question is whether or not the Old Dodge is still on 4-wheel and running!

Bert

Buck94 said

Bert H. said

Ben said
Bert, my current rate of physical decline, indicates I should no longer buy green bananas… I blame it mostly the first two mRNA Covid shots I received… and the rest on the stupid choices made in college. 
  

I blame most of my physical ills on the nearly 21-years I spent riding around in Nuclear Submarines... and possibly on all of that excessive drinking I did in various liberty ports...
  

Bert did you ever serve with a Sheldon McElhiney? He is my cousin and spent almost 30 years in the Navy on subs. 
  

That name does not ring any bells with me.  I spent all of my time on "Boomers" (Ballistic Missile boats).

Btw you two supposed old farts, Don't forget I got to meet each of you last year at Cody and neither one of you looked like there where 6 people ready to carry the box for you!!!!

Bert H. said

Ben said
Bert, my current rate of physical decline, indicates I should no longer buy green bananas… I blame it mostly the first two mRNA Covid shots I received… and the rest on the stupid choices made in college. 
  

I blame most of my physical ills on the nearly 21-years I spent riding around in Nuclear Submarines... and possibly on all of that excessive drinking I did in various liberty ports...
  

Bert did you ever serve with a Sheldon McElhiney? He is my cousin and spent almost 30 years in the Navy on subs. 

Ben said
Bert, my current rate of physical decline, indicates I should no longer buy green bananas… I blame it mostly the first two mRNA Covid shots I received… and the rest on the stupid choices made in college. 
  

I blame most of my physical ills on the nearly 21-years I spent riding around in Nuclear Submarines... and possibly on all of that excessive drinking I did in various liberty ports...

Ben said
They will be remembered, forever… or at least until we all die. 😂. And chances are pretty good that some of us may do that before this gets resolved…. 🥀
  

Is that a threat or a promise?  I do not know what your plans are, but I am planning to haunt this old world for at least another 40-years (and still driving that old Dodge Cummins truck while doing it)!

Bert

but just in case, I’d like #’s 52, 61, 62, 70 & 75 😎

I'm not so pessimistic about getting Olin's blessing, if it's approached in the right way. And even if bureaucracy made it impossible, I think doing them the courtesy would be favorably remembered. As Ive already said, the key things in the request are:

1. We are your friends and don't want to offend you.

2. We would like to benefit WACA by selling these nice racks. Our members want to buy them.

3.We are not asking permission to make more. There are only 75 of them.

4. We believe the logo applications were unauthorized and may be infringing. If you want us to pay royalty, we will do so.

5. May we please have your indulgence in this de minimus matter?

86Win said
Wouldn't Winchester have to sue the manufacturer of these? Is there any makers info on them? No patent dates or trademark of the maker. Would the WACA label be considered the maker? I think you are overly concerned as Winchester wouldn't know who to sue.
  

The short answer is no. Winchester wouldn't have to sue the manufacturer. The Winchester horse and rider logo is a registered trademark owned by Olin Corporation. If that mark is applied to any object without Olin's permission, Olin can sue anybody who puts the object in commerce to recover royalties, attorney fees, court costs, and sometimes an order requiring the objects be turned over or destroyed. 

The burden of proof is on the seller to show permission. 

Olin may have a design patent in place protecting the horse and rider but trademark law is what we're talking about here. 

Yes, i would still like to purchase one and will gladly pay shipping and handling fees and i'm sure they will be a pain in the butt to package and ship.

Just my .02 cents....... 

BRP