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                    <title>Chuck on .348 reloading</title>
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<strong>kujuak said </strong><br />
Good day!</p>
<p>I am up to 4  resizings with my current loads with no brass loss. I do not have an annealer and don't anneal.Seriously considering getting an annealer after loading a batch of old brass a buddy annealed for me. I could feel a difference in sizing (smoother and more consistent). Accuracy was a bit better, caveats rifles all have receiver sights, eyeballs 7 decades old, and my accuracy potential wth iron sights is impacted by sunlight situation.<br />
So no more "I"s, love to hear from folks who hunt with, shoot, and reload 348Winchester/Winchester 71s.<br />
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Cheers!<br />
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<p>Buy a gas annealer with a <strong>timer</strong>.  You have to set up the flame exactly the same way each time.  Keep the case in the flame just long enough for the mouth of the case to turn orange and gives off an orange flame. The blue tip of the flame should be aimed at the neck and be about  1/2" away.  I use a Bench Source but there are many others.  The AMP is at least 2X what a good flame annealer costs.  Your brass will be easier to size, bullets will seat easier, case life will be much longer, cases will stay where you sized them and not rebound so much.</p>
<p>Erik Cortina who shoots on the US team, and is a World champion f class shooter, did a comparison of the Bench Source and the AMP.  The slight difference may be what a World Class Shooter needs but not necessarily what the average reloader needs. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 16:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>dimrod on .348 reloading</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
How much did you say that induction annealing machine cost? One trip to the ER might fade it. <br />
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<p>Speaking of induction annealers, I note that Burstfire has an offering now that’s less expensive than the AMP version. I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks like it might have merit. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on .348 reloading</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>How much did you say that induction annealing machine cost? One trip to the ER might fade it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 00:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 40 Ex</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I loaded the 5 cases.  30 grs, 30.5 grs. 31 grs. 31.5 grs and 32 grs.</p>
<p>I did not use the filler material nor the process I did the last time.  I used toilet paper and let the bullet compact it just a bit. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 22:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on .348 reloading</title>
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<p>oldcrankyyankee said </p>
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Jim F in CT said<br />
When I anneal cases, I dip the case neck in molten lead using bare fingers.<br />
When case head gets too hot to hold, I drop it on a folded towel . . . .NO WATER QUENCH!<br />
(Usually done before a bullet casting session.)<br />
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<p>That's ballsy! I respect molten lead with the same regard as Napalm. Got the scars to show why.<br />
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<p>I've heard of annealing brass that way but I also know what happens when the tiniest bit of moisture encounters molten lead. One visit from the Tinsel Fairy can be one too many.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Or a trapped air pocket</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on .348 reloading</title>
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Jim F in CT said<br />
When I anneal cases, I dip the case neck in molten lead using bare fingers.<br />
When case head gets too hot to hold, I drop it on a folded towel . . . .NO WATER QUENCH!<br />
(Usually done before a bullet casting session.)<br />
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<p>That's ballsy! I respect molten lead with the same regard as Napalm. Got the scars to show why.<br />
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<p>I've heard of annealing brass that way but I also know what happens when the tiniest bit of moisture encounters molten lead. One visit from the Tinsel Fairy can be one too many.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 18:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>oldcrankyyankee on .348 reloading</title>
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<strong>Jim F in CT said </strong><br />
When I anneal cases, I dip the case neck in molten lead using bare fingers.<br />
When case head gets too hot to hold, I drop it on a folded towel . . . .NO WATER QUENCH!<br />
(Usually done before a bullet casting session.)<br />
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<p>That's ballsy! I respect molten lead with the same regard as Napalm. Got the scars to show why.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 18:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Ideal 45 W Mold</title>
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<p>Chuck said<br />
Thanks, Mike.<br />
I just gave away 50 lbs of lead to one of my shooting friends.  He and the other 4 guys that shoot next to me have explained the process.  Maybe one of them would help me out.  One of them cast 5 bullets for my Sharps rifle for display cartridges.  Too pretty for me to shoot.  The bullet that is.  I have shot the rifle.<br />
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<p>Yep, they're pretty! I don't have a problem shooting them because I can pour some more. <br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>I need some 45-70's.  I'm not picky.  .458", 400 grs would be nice but I wouldn't complain about something heavier.  My shoulder might though.  The Sharps has 1:18 twist.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 23:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jim F in CT on .348 reloading</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>When I anneal cases, I dip the case neck in molten lead using bare fingers.</p>
<p>When case head gets too hot to hold, I drop it on a folded towel . . . .NO WATER QUENCH!</p>
<p>(Usually done before a bullet casting session.)</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Ideal 45 W Mold</title>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
Thanks, Mike.<br />
I just gave away 50 lbs of lead to one of my shooting friends.  He and the other 4 guys that shoot next to me have explained the process.  Maybe one of them would help me out.  One of them cast 5 bullets for my Sharps rifle for display cartridges.  Too pretty for me to shoot.  The bullet that is.  I have shot the rifle.<br />
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<p>Yep, they're pretty! I don't have a problem shooting them because I can pour some more. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Highwall in 45 EX</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  We'll see.  Also I need to work up a smokeless load. They sent me another email stating all the reasons the next set of dies will cost more. They want me to send them during their slow time.  I said OK and explained that the 38 and 40 may need another die before it will go into their f/l die or my chamber for fire forming.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Ideal 45 W Mold</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mike.</p>
<p>I just gave away 50 lbs of lead to one of my shooting friends.  He and the other 4 guys that shoot next to me have explained the process.  Maybe one of them would help me out.  One of them cast 5 bullets for my Sharps rifle for display cartridges.  Too pretty for me to shoot.  The bullet that is.  I have shot the rifle.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Ideal 45 W Mold</title>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
I have a bunch of my friends telling me I should.  I have enough trouble keeping up with what I'm doing now.<br />
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<p>Chuck-</p>
<p>I've invited Zeb up to pour a few, hopefully someday he'll wander up here. Would be a bit of a hike for you but I'll extend the offer anyway. It's the same as reloading, it can be accomplished with minimal equipment or you can wind up with dozens of moulds, a box full of sizing dies and more related equipment than you can imagine. There are few things more satisfying than pouring molten lead into a mould and dropping out a fresh, shiny bullet. It can be a bit frustrating at times but you seem to enjoy a challenge. Single cavity steel moulds are almost therapeutic but the aluminum 4-6 cavity moulds will keep you busy until the pot is empty.  I'm sure one of your friends on the left coast will let you sit in on a casting session and maybe even pour a few. On the downside useable lead is getting scarce out here in the free world and I would recommend looking into the local lead supply situation before investing in tools and equipment. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Highwall in 45 EX</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I think I'd spend some time with the new dies before I had them make another set for the other cartridges.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 01:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 40 Ex</title>
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Chuck said</p>
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Bert H. said</p>
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Bert H. said .  FWIW, IMR 4198 has not "been around for over 100 years", and its formulation is virtually the same today as when it was introduced in the 1930s.<br />
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<p>Never said it was.  The only documented Dupont info I've ever seen that talks about fillers and compressed loads was for the No 1 powder. <br />
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<p>You are guilty of ignoring some of the information I posted. Specifically, Post #78 in this topic string. <br />
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<p>I did not ignore it.  I actually agree with some of it. But a lot of the times your opinion is not backed up with documented proof.  Opinions don't count in reloading.  I don't trust anyone's opinions when it comes to reloading.   I choose to test the data I get from the noted and accepted authors of the reloading manuals. <br />
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<p>That was not my opinion... instead, it was quoted information.<br />
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<p>"This is what you will find if you do some investigating”</p>
<p>IMR 4198 is <strong class="frg-ins1">generally considered not position sensitive</strong> for most rifle cartridges, including common straight-walled black powder cartridges like the .45-70, .40-70 Ballard, and .40-90 Ballard. This means that, within normal loading density and pressure limits, you don’t need to worry about the exact placement of the powder in the case for consistent ignition and performance.</p>
<h3 class="frg-ins2">Why it’s not position sensitive</h3>
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<li><strong class="frg-ins3">Burn rate and formulation</strong>: IMR 4198 is a fast-burning extruded rifle powder designed for consistent combustion when loaded within its published pressure range.</li>
<li><strong class="frg-ins4">Experience in older cartridges</strong>: Reloaders using it in .45-70 and similar straight-walled cartridges have reported no issues with vertical stringing or erratic ignition when powder placement varies."</li>
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<p>OK, provide the source of this data.  I have provided all my sources.  Even if you do, I will still use fillers when I think they are needed.  None of this says anything about the Topic of reloading the 40 EX.  I thought you were going to agree to disagree.  </p>
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