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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p> I need to start shooting more of my rim fires…Bert</p>
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<p>True that! This thread inspired me to toss a couple in the car when I went to run my traps today. That ammo isn't getting any younger and neither are we. As you may have noticed by the price tag on one box I haven't bought ammo in awhile. I have less than a thousand rounds of 22WMR but at this rate I'll never need to buy more.</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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<p>Bert H. said </p>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
I have a partial box of ancient Super-X (silver paper box) but my NAA revolver is sighted in for it so I wanted to save it.😉<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,<br />
I have 2,900 rounds of the Super-X (silver paper box)... I am quite sure that I can resupply you at Cody.  Shoot up that old partial box!<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>That would last me quite awhile, Bert. That partial box is at least 20 and possibly 30 years old and I've only managed to fire 31 rounds out of it. Those little hideout revolvers are slow to shoot and even slower to reload. Kinda easy on the ammo. Seems your rifle likes it better than anything else you've tried in it, might be worth keeping around.<br />
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<p>I will never shoot that many rounds through it.  In addition to the Super-X ammo, I have another 700 rounds of CCI, Federal,  Hornady, and Remington 22 Magnum ammo.  I have two pistols that I can shoot it in (PMR-30 and an original Ruger Single Six convertible).  I need to start shooting more of my rim fires...</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 03:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I haven't given up yet... I just ordered some <span>Federal Game-Shok Rimfire Ammunition .22 WMR 50 gr JHP 1530 fps.</span></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 03:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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<p>TXGunNut said<br />
I have a partial box of ancient Super-X (silver paper box) but my NAA revolver is sighted in for it so I wanted to save it.😉<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,<br />
I have 2,900 rounds of the Super-X (silver paper box)... I am quite sure that I can resupply you at Cody.  Shoot up that old partial box!<br />
Bert<br />
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<p>That would last me quite awhile, Bert. That partial box is at least 20 and possibly 30 years old and I've only managed to fire 31 rounds out of it. Those little hideout revolvers are slow to shoot and even slower to reload. Kinda easy on the ammo. Seems your rifle likes it better than anything else you've tried in it, might be worth keeping around.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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Mike,  which R-word model is it?  <br />
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<p>It's an old 597 Magnum. One of the first 17HMR's. They had problems with it but it shot very well for me and a few guys I know. Too bad it's a 22WMR now, well with Minute of Coyote from here to my back fence, tho.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 02:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike,  which R-word model is it?  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 02:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
I have a partial box of ancient Super-X (silver paper box) but my NAA revolver is sighted in for it so I wanted to save it.😉<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I have 2,900 rounds of the Super-X (silver paper box)... I am quite sure that I can resupply you at Cody.  Shoot up that old partial box!</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a partial box of ancient Super-X (silver paper box) but my NAA revolver is sighted in for it so I wanted to save it.😉</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="IMG_5077.jpeg" alt="IMG_5077.jpeg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bikenmike26yahoo-com/2026/11/IMG_5077.jpeg" />I stand corrected on the Winchester ammo, Bert! I haven’t tried the later offerings sitting on my shelf and after a quick range trip I was impressed! Shot four very quick five-shot groups and the Winchester Varmint HV (30gr polymer tip V-Max @2250fps) looked good so I went back to the bench for a ten-shot group. Got in a hurry and flubbed a trigger reset and the resulting flyer ruined a nice group. I’m not the shooter Bert is, I signed in at the range office at 4:15, cleared the gate at 4:45 so I didn’t squeeze the last drop of accuracy out of the ugly little R-word pest control appliance. It doesn’t seem to have any marked preference for any of the CCI ammo I pulled off the shelf.</p>
<p>if it”s any consolation the 61M was never intended to be a target rifle and the one you beat Ben out of is certainly a lot easier in the eyes than my polymer and phosphate coyote club. Photos of the R-word are NOT forthcoming! Attached 50 yard target is not bragging material but it certainly shows promise.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
Personally I could never figure why any one would want a .22 magnum especially with a .22 hornet or the .22 Win. c.f. available. Any game doable with a .22 mag. was pretty much doable with a .22 l.r. Now saying that I knew fellas that went deer hunting with a .22, because it was the only gun they had. Then on the other end I knew fellas that used a .303 Enfield on jack rabbits,. I had a .22 hornet many years ago that shot many "killer" ground hogs and put many cottontails in the pot, it would still be about My favorite cartridge if I was still hunting, I would just need to find one in a lever action with a "red dot" sight on it so I could hit something. <br />
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<p>For carrying &#038; hunting, the Winchester Model 43 is my favorite 22 Hornet rifle.  I have mine scoped with a Leupold VX-II 2x7, and with factory Remington 45-gr HP ammo, it shoots sub MOA (dime sized) groups @ 100-yds <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 22:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Personally I could never figure why any one would want a .22 magnum especially with a .22 hornet or the .22 Win. c.f. available. Any game doable with a .22 mag. was pretty much doable with a .22 l.r. Now saying that I knew fellas that went deer hunting with a .22, because it was the only gun they had. Then on the other end I knew fellas that used a .303 Enfield on jack rabbits,. I had a .22 hornet many years ago that shot many "killer" ground hogs and put many cottontails in the pot, it would still be about My favorite cartridge if I was still hunting, I would just need to find one in a lever action with a "red dot" sight on it so I could hit something.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /> </p>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I never thought I d say $0.38 a round was a bargain but there is no doubt about it. If you want more bang for your buck than the 22 LR can provide, the Hornet is the least expensive next step until the market for commercial canister powders rationalizes - in this case, the number of powder manufacturers willing to tool up and enter the market, do so and increase supply enough to bring down the price. </p>
<p>I do wish one of the foreign powder makers would pick up and replicate SR4759. Maybe the potential.demand for it is too small and I can't see that because I find it so useful. </p>
<p>I have to give Bert credit for encouraging me to buy a good supply of Lil Gun when Midway got some in. It is a powder I didn't see as useful in the tiny quantities the Hornet case can use. But it is excellent for the caliber. </p>
<p>[In other news,my High Wall 38-55 should be in in next few days and the Redding dies came yesterday]</p>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, I was very strongly considering adding a Ruger #1 Hornet to my safe, but then I had my Winchester Single Shot Hornet reamed to K-hornet... the urge for the Ruger died shortly thereafter.  Today, I would not pass up a Ruger #1 at a reasonable price, or a Kimber of Oregon.</p>
<p>For those that are curious, the current cost to reload for the Hornet is 38-cents per round (bullet, primer, &#038; powder) as opposed to $70+ per box of 50 for Remington/Winchester/Hornady factory new ammo.</p>
<p>250 Hornady V-Max 40 grain bullets = $50.14 (50.14/250 = $.20 per bullet)</p>
<p>CCI 400 primers = $86.99 per 1,000 ($.087 per piece)</p>
<p>Hodgdon Lil'Gun powder = $46 per 1 lb, (7,000 grains/13.5 grains = 518 loads per pound) or $.089 per ctg.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2026 07:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>BRP -- I am a rabid fan of the .22 Hornet and have owned several, including the Ruger #1 currently in my safe. This particular rifle has not had ample opportunity to prove itself but it seems promising.</p>
<p>Among all the departed, however, an Anschutz Model 1722 was the standout. It, too, was built on the Match 54 action and had a superb trigger. It was easily the most accurate and accounted for many Rio Grande gobblers and (in Brown County, where the population of <em>G. m. Intermedia</em> was out of control and either sex was legal in the Fall) large hens. </p>
<p>The only problem with the Anschutz was its rear locking action that allowed Hornet cases to stretch and would soon result in case separations if they were reloaded more than once or twice. Had I kept the rifle I would have had it rechambered to K-Hornet to give it a decent shoulder. The #1 has no such deficiency. </p>
<p>My point: The Hornet, in the hands of a handloader, makes the Magnum Rimfire expensive surplus. </p>
<p>As a matter of interest:</p>
<p>Ruger has, for the time being, ended production of the #1 and #77 -- the customers who wanted one of each, like me, have got them. The last years of production of the #1 were sold exclusively to Cabela/Bass Pro, which had complete control of each year's single caliber and configuration. Cabela knew how to market the #1 better than Sturm Ruger and was willing to tag them at $2K retail in order to upgrade the wood and the trimmings. Mine has Walnut I spotted 50 yards away from the display rack and turned down guns in unopened boxes in order to buy it for the Walnut.  Case colored receiver and lever, stiff contour 24" barrel but with Alex Henry forearm and ramped and quarter ribbed iron sights. Copious checkering and a red pad. It's a show dog that can hunt. And the 77 is a 6.5 SE African style that loses the boxy look of the standard gun. Fuzz your eyes and its a Holland magazine gun. </p>
<p> I'm going to resist the unworthy temptation to unload these at an immoral price to Simple Simon who thinks they're rare....</p>
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                    <title>Darrin Smith on Shooting the Model 61 22 WMR</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I don't disagree. Was surprised to see it at any price. I was unaware of RWS in 22 mag. I have several iterations in 22 lr. Bet I'll see it at a gun show soon.</p>
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