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tim tomlinson on 4198 powder

Sat, 23 May 2026 03:41:20 +0000

Bert, so do i. But seems to mean square root of 0. Tim

Bert H. on 4198 powder

Sat, 23 May 2026 01:19:06 +0000

tim tomlinson said
Bert, Just like yesterday, only IMR 3031 in stock. Won't even list IMR 4198 as "out of stock". Had you had it on back order? Tim

Tim,

No I did not have it on back order. I simply ordered it online and they delivered it. I do have an account with them though.

Bert

tim tomlinson on 4198 powder

Sat, 23 May 2026 00:58:10 +0000

Bert, Just like yesterday, only IMR 3031 in stock. Won't even list IMR 4198 as "out of stock". Had you had it on back order? Tim

tim tomlinson on 4198 powder

Sat, 23 May 2026 00:48:30 +0000

Bert, Will try once again! If it works, Thank you! Tiim

Bert H. on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 16:38:14 +0000

tim tomlinson said
I am definitely not the end all on powders, but have checked all the usual places for IMR 4198 or H-4198 with no success. Looking to help out a friend to whom I reluctantly sold some several years back. Lowered my supply and held him for a few years. Currently I only see a few IMR powders even available. I won't comment on affordability tho! Those are seemingly only available in 1 lb cans, with no 8 pounders available for a couple of years. Seems I also can not back order which is a disturbing sign. My small stash of H-4198 is my strategic reserve. I've used it before with no known problems. It has now been a few years since new stocks of 4198 has been out, so maybe soon we will have new powder hitting the wholesalers? Tim

Tim,

I just bought (2) 1-lb bottles of H4198 from Natchez Shooters Supply. I ordered it last week and it was delivered yesterday.

Bert

tim tomlinson on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 16:27:31 +0000

I am definitely not the end all on powders, but have checked all the usual places for IMR 4198 or H-4198 with no success. Looking to help out a friend to whom I reluctantly sold some several years back. Lowered my supply and held him for a few years. Currently I only see a few IMR powders even available. I won't comment on affordability tho! Those are seemingly only available in 1 lb cans, with no 8 pounders available for a couple of years. Seems I also can not back order which is a disturbing sign. My small stash of H-4198 is my strategic reserve. I've used it before with no known problems. It has now been a few years since new stocks of 4198 has been out, so maybe soon we will have new powder hitting the wholesalers? Tim

Chuck on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 15:43:36 +0000

Hodgdon still lists the IMR 4198 in their 2026 loading manual along with some other IMR powders but actually finding them is not easy. I would advise you to buy any of the IMR powders whenever you can find some. I'm currently looking for IMR 4064.

Bert H. on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 15:26:15 +0000

My understanding is that the H4198 variant is still being manufactured by Hodgdon domestically, and that the IMR powder variants are manufactured in periodic batches at their Valleyfield, Ontario, Canada facility.

I will continue to use the IMR variant for as long as I can still find it. That stated, I did buy a few pounds of the H4198 for back-up (emergency) use. While I might need to tweak a few loads by a few tenths of a grain, my current IMR loads will be my starting point with the H4198.

Bert

TXGunNut on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 14:58:22 +0000

Bill-

For the few cartridges I load with 4198 I haven't noticed a difference in performance between the IMR and Hodgdon versions. I'll be trying it in additional cartridges in the future and will continue to treat them as two different powders. Do you know if Hodgdon has plans to discontinue either powder? At today's powder prices it makes no sense to develop a load for a powder that may not be available in a year or two.

Mike

Bert H. on 4198 powder

Fri, 22 May 2026 04:53:53 +0000

Bill,

In all of the many different cartridges I load with 4198, there is a very minimal difference in the grain weight for the two powders. I personally use them interchangeably. Simply start at or near the minimum load for H41198 and then work up from there.

Bert

426crown on 4198 powder

Thu, 21 May 2026 22:07:48 +0000

Is there a difference between Hogdon H4198 and IMR 4198 powder. loading 40-65-260 with 23 grains of IMR 4198? Thanks Bill

Bert H. on Who Reloads 45-70 With Black Powder?

Wed, 20 May 2026 17:53:34 +0000

King Medallion said

Bert H. said



I have been purchasing my powder from this company, as they seem to have the best selection in stock - Shop – All Powder Shop

Bert


So did you get your powder from this place? Popular opinion is its a scam site.

I did not, and canceled by CC order.

King Medallion on Who Reloads 45-70 With Black Powder?

Wed, 20 May 2026 17:52:14 +0000

Bert H. said

I have been purchasing my powder from this company, as they seem to have the best selection in stock - Shop – All Powder Shop

Bert

So did you get your powder from this place? Popular opinion is its a scam site.

MidwestCrisis on Got the Girls Out Today

Tue, 19 May 2026 00:00:12 +0000

Thanks Bill. The 94 is D&T so I’ll start looking. I did ok on my close target. I didn’t think I was hitting the steel plate at 125 yds. One of my last shots I thought I heard a faint echo. It could have been that the 25-35 is fast enough that the muzzle blast covered the the round hitting the plate and light enough not to have a big report. Maybe this weekend I’ll be able to get it out again.

Zebulon on Got the Girls Out Today

Mon, 18 May 2026 23:19:22 +0000

Here is the 80