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                    <title>Bert H. on 4198 powder</title>
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<p><strong>tim tomlinson said </strong><br />
I am definitely not the end all on powders, but have checked all the usual places for IMR 4198 or H-4198 with no success.  Looking to help out a friend to whom I reluctantly sold some several years back.  Lowered my supply and held him for a few years.  Currently I only see a few IMR powders even available.  I won't comment on affordability tho!  Those are seemingly only available in 1 lb cans, with no 8 pounders available for a couple of years.  Seems I also can not back order which is a disturbing sign.  My small stash of H-4198 is my strategic reserve.  I've used it before with no known problems.  It has now been a few years since new stocks of 4198 has been out, so maybe soon we will have new powder hitting the wholesalers?  Tim<br />
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<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I just bought (2) 1-lb bottles of H4198 from Natchez Shooters Supply.  I ordered it last week and it was delivered yesterday.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tim tomlinson on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely not the end all on powders, but have checked all the usual places for IMR 4198 or H-4198 with no success.  Looking to help out a friend to whom I reluctantly sold some several years back.  Lowered my supply and held him for a few years.  Currently I only see a few IMR powders even available.  I won't comment on affordability tho!  Those are seemingly only available in 1 lb cans, with no 8 pounders available for a couple of years.  Seems I also can not back order which is a disturbing sign.  My small stash of H-4198 is my strategic reserve.  I've used it before with no known problems.  It has now been a few years since new stocks of 4198 has been out, so maybe soon we will have new powder hitting the wholesalers?  Tim</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 16:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hodgdon still lists the IMR 4198 in their 2026 loading manual along with some other IMR powders but actually finding them is not easy.  I would advise you to buy any of the IMR powders whenever you can find some.  I'm currently looking for IMR 4064.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 15:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that the H4198 variant is still being manufactured by Hodgdon domestically, and that the IMR powder variants are manufactured in periodic batches at their Valleyfield, Ontario, Canada facility.  </p>
<p>I will continue to use the IMR variant for as long as I can still find it.  That stated, I did buy a few pounds of the H4198 for back-up (emergency) use.  While I might need to tweak a few loads by a few tenths of a grain, my current IMR loads will be my starting point with the H4198.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 15:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bill-</p>
<p>For the few cartridges I load with 4198 I haven't noticed a difference in performance between the IMR and Hodgdon versions. I'll be trying it in additional cartridges in the future and will continue to treat them as two different powders. Do you know if Hodgdon has plans to discontinue either powder? At today's powder prices it makes no sense to develop a load for a powder that may not be available in a year or two. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 14:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>In all of the many different cartridges I load with 4198, there is a very minimal difference in the grain weight for the two powders.  I personally use them interchangeably.  Simply start at or near the minimum load for H41198 and then work up from there.</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 04:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>426crown on 4198 powder</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Is there a difference between Hogdon H4198 and IMR 4198 powder. loading 40-65-260 with 23 grains of IMR 4198? Thanks Bill</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Who Reloads 45-70 With Black Powder?</title>
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<p>I have been purchasing my powder from this company, as they seem to have the best selection in stock - Shop – All Powder Shop<br />
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Bert<br />
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<p>So did you get your powder from this place? Popular opinion is its a scam site.<br />
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<p>I did not, and canceled by CC order.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 17:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>King Medallion on Who Reloads 45-70 With Black Powder?</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>I have been purchasing my powder from this company, as they seem to have the best selection in stock - Shop – All Powder Shop<br />
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Bert<br />
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<p>So did you get your powder from this place? Popular opinion is its a scam site.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 17:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill.  The 94 is D&#038;T so I’ll start looking.  I did ok on my close target.  I didn’t think I was hitting the steel plate at 125 yds.  One of my last shots I thought I heard a faint echo.  It could have been that the 25-35 is fast enough that the muzzle blast covered the the round hitting the plate and light enough not to have a big report.  Maybe this weekend I’ll be able to get it out again. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2026 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the 80</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="3024" data-height="2268" title="20260507_131012-1.jpg" alt="20260507_131012-1.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/05/20260507_131012-1.jpg" />8</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Barrel-mounted rear sights require too much of a middle-aged human eye.  A young shooter can manage aligning rear sight, front sight, and target fairly well but that ability fades rapidly with age. </p>
<p>There is a reason why our armed services adopted the aperture sight - once learned, <em>everybody </em>shoots better with it. </p>
<p>For the sake of authenticity, I can tolerate a tang peep, although I dislike the absence of micrometer adjustments and lack of any azimuth adjustment on most of them. </p>
<p>When I got my 1950 Model 70 Supergrade Decades ago, it came with a Lyman 48 WJS and, as I learned to use it  effectively, it was like showing fire to a caveman. By changing out the aperture as lighting conditions varied, I realized I wasn't giving up all that much to a 4X scope in most hunting situations. </p>
<p>We were discussing the Winchester Model 71. Collectors adore WRACO'S 98A bolt peep sight, which has fairly rough adjustments - loosen a set screw, slide the aperture up or down, tighten the set screw. My 1949 Model 71 wears a Redfield 80-FT with full quarter minute click micrometer knobs for both windage and elevation. I would not trade it.(The Redfield sight could be special ordered for the 71 until the Lyman 56W became standard and superseded the 98A, so a Redfield 70 or 80 looks at home.)</p>
<p>If you have not tried a Lyman 56A or a Redfield 70E on a Winchester 94, consider it before you settle on a tang peep. It would require tapping the left receiver wall, depending on the vintage of the gun.  Neither receiver sight coded for the Model 94 is rare.  The 56 would be more expensive. The steel 66 is just as good, by the way. One reason I like them so much is they are lightning fast and don't interfere with my shooting hand's grip. </p>
<p>If I can find it, I'll attach a photo of two 1886 rifles, one with  Redfield 70 and the other with a Redfield 80. Both with hunter knobs.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 23:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Adam, both those Winchesters are a pleasure to look at. Natural light illuminates detail like nothing else. I'm sure an expert could pick the results apart for some reason or another but both rifles look like they've weathered years of use in good hands and are still ready for more. <br />
About the buckhorn sight. I've listened patiently to condescending explanations that you use it like an aperture sight and just look through it and put the bead on the target. In other words, the eye will center itself in the brightest part of a semicircle.  <br />
Bravo Sierra. I don't believe it. For one thing, it isn't close enough to the eye and, more importantly,  light will enter asymetrically. Tang sights and Lyman 21/38 receiver sights were the marksman's preference for a reason, even for snapshooting. <br />
Original a full buckhorn may be but so was the chamber pot. Leave it in or sell it to a sight collector. Install a Lyman 1a and whatever higher front sight that requires, if you want a "usin' gun." Your eyes will thank you. <br />
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<p>That makes a lot of sense. Trying to set the post in the notch I was still moving 2” vertically but was dead on for windage.  I have an 1885 45-70 Uberti.  It has a full buckhorn. I have been thinking about getting a tang sight for it. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 02:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Adam, both those Winchesters are a pleasure to look at. Natural light illuminates detail like nothing else. I'm sure an expert could pick the results apart for some reason or another but both rifles look like they've weathered years of use in good hands and are still ready for more. </p>
<p>About the buckhorn sight. I've listened patiently to condescending explanations that you use it like an aperture sight and just look <em>through </em>it and put the bead on the target. In other words, the eye will center itself in the brightest part of a <em>semicircle.  </em></p>
<p>Bravo Sierra. I don't believe it. For one thing, it isn't close enough to the eye and, more importantly,  light will enter asymetrically. Tang sights and Lyman 21/38 receiver sights were the marksman's preference for a reason, even for snapshooting. </p>
<p>Original a full buckhorn may be but so was the chamber pot. Leave it in or sell it to a sight collector. Install a Lyman 1a and whatever higher front sight that requires, if you want a "usin' gun." Your eyes will thank you. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MidwestCrisis on Got the Girls Out Today </title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong><br />
Nice! Been getting any rain? No shooting here today, would have to duct tape the rifles to the concrete bench, a folding table would have dumped everything and led a merry chase.<br />
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<p>Yes, the rain has been coming regularly.  The pasture is going yield some good round bales.  It’s a little windy here.  Thankfully not so bad when I was shooting.  The 17 hmr I was sighting in drifted about 3 inches at 120yds with a 5-10 mph crosswind.  At 35 yds I was shooting the numbers on the target.  </p>
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