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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
 You'd need to find and put the original mice back in it, then get the appropriate wildlife export/import permits to get them out of the U.S. and in to Canada. <br />
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<p>Awww Henry, getting those original mice back won't be much of a problem.  I believe they've just moved a little ways and taken up residence in the air cleaner of my wife's vehicle.  Probably should get them out of there before they penetrate the firewall anyway. (what's the exchange rate on mice?)</p>
<p>Now.....Getting across the Canadian border is another story.  I've hunted up in Saskatchewan several times. When you roll up to that border with guns, those guys are all business, and rarely crack a smile.....not even during the cavity search.  BUT........on the way back down from Canada, all they want to do is see your big antlers and pat you on the back!  Kinda confusing isn't it???? <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>George, That pine ammo crate sounds interesting, but You'de need to find and put the original mice back in it, then get the appropriate wildlife export/import permits to get them out of the U.S. and in to Canada. Just like the firearms though, the paperwork's a bi#$%<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Wink" alt="Wink" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" />. I see there is a 1890 shipping crate on gun broker , item#1210037701, it's pretty rough though and been on there for some time. It would be nice to have a decent one, even better, a full one.<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 12:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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<p>DEEREHART said<br />
I had a bit of time this afternoon...<br />
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<p>12354 Stith mount Weaver 298 sporter<br />
81307 Sporter Lyman peep , sling<br />
39891 Target 99A front 84A rear Nice wood (Jeff correct me on the sights if I am wrong)<br />
76414 Target Unertl 1.5 x16 Redfield 75rear redfield 63 front (again Jeff...)<br />
Killed a bunch of grouse with 12354<br />
The kids always liked the target with the "big scope"<br />
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<p>39891 sure does have beautiful wood.  First target model that I’ve seen with exceptional grain.  The big scope is really cool, but I bet 12354 is a great shooter too..</p>
<p>Thanks for posting!  This thread has displayed some very beautiful, and unique rifles.</p>
<p>Anyone else ????</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 03:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ok Hank,</p>
<p>Rumor has it you like to make trades.  I’m going to make you an offer you can’t refuse….</p>
<p>I’ll take any one of those 1890s of your choosing….</p>
<p>In exchange you’ll get:</p>
<p>1. A 1968 model 94 (Real shiny..) .30-30 I call her Ol’ Pot Metal.  The action rattles like an old windmill, but she’s good for a 5 MOA group at thirty seven yards all day long…</p>
<p>2. A couple of nice reproduction Winchester ammo crates…. Straight grain pine. Like new. Mice are gone….</p>
<p>3. One JC Higgins gun cleaning kit (all calibers) Looks hardly used as several of the brass bore brush bristles aren’t flat yet.</p>
<p>I’ll PM my mailing address for the 1890 😉</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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<p><strong>DEEREHART said </strong><br />
I had a bit of time this afternoon...<br />
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<p>12354 Stith mount Weaver 298 sporter</p>
<p>81307 Sporter Lyman peep , sling</p>
<p>39891 Target 99A front 84A rear Nice wood (Jeff correct me on the sights if I am wrong)</p>
<p>76414 Target Unertl 1.5 x16 Redfield 75rear redfield 63 front (again Jeff...)</p>
<p>Killed a bunch of grouse with 12354</p>
<p>The kids always liked the target with the "big scope"<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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<p><strong>Anthony #5411 said </strong><br />
I'm thinking it's pretty safe to say that Henry has the market cornered on the model 1890!<br />
Thanks for sharing, Hank!<br />
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Tony<br />
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<p>Yes… he sure does.  Incredible collection.</p>
<p>I like the tagging system too…</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 02:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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<p><strong>DEEREHART said </strong><br />
I had a bit of time this afternoon...<br />
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<p>Wow!  Beautiful group.  Tell us about them 😁</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 02:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>DEEREHART on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I had a bit of time this afternoon...<img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="640" title="75-right.jpg" alt="75-right.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deerehart/2026/10/75-right.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="480" data-height="640" title="75-left.jpg" alt="75-left.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/deerehart/2026/10/75-left.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 02:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen, I can truly understand and appreciate you're time in explaining it, as was said it's mainly in the eye of the beholder, but the lines can be a little fuzzy, but you guy's did a great job, at least helping me to understand more, and a great reference for other future collectors! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 23:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>BRP is correct, it can be fuzzy (or as clear as you want) depending upon how you define the term pre-war and post-war. </p>
<p>For myself I define the terms for the Model 75 production based on the cut-off for the war and the re-start of production after the war.  But, for a clear and precise answer you have to specify the <strong>moment in time</strong> as well in your query. </p>
<p>In general, when I quote the polishing room numbers that indicates the <em>date the serial number was applied and it officially became a "firearm" per the ATF.  </em>But other moments in time can be the <em>final assembly date</em>, the <em>date the firearm was received by the warehouse</em>, the <em>date the firearm was shipped from the warehouse</em>, the <em>date the rifle was received by the purchaser (like as recorded in the A&#038;F records)</em> and even the date the firearm was first fired (as in the usual bogus statement that my rifle is "unfired").  </p>
<p>So, if you want to know serial numbers for when a Model 75 legally <span style="text-decoration: underline">first became a "firearm"</span> that would be:</p>
<p>Serial numbers 1 (1938) through 45365 (January 31, 1943) - defined as "Pre-war"</p>
<p>No serial numbers February 1, 1943 through October 3, 1945 - defined as "During the war"</p>
<p>Serial numbers 45366 (October 4, 1945) until 89338 (November 20, 1961) - defined as "Post-war"</p>
<p>Now, if you want to know the serial numbers for a different "moment in time of production" you just need to be a bit more specific in how you ask.</p>
<p>And, yes, there were hundreds of receivers that were serialized pre-war but not assembled into rifles until post war (I have several as well), primarily left-overs from the G7505R military contract.  But if you are looking at the "assembly date" as your moment in time it cannot be based on a specific hard/fast serial number and neither can the shipping or received dates because the serial numbers <span style="text-decoration: underline">are not sequential</span> to those moments in time.  We use other sources for that data.</p>
<p>In general, the WACA Historians use the polishing room records when answering questions because they are black/white to a very specific point in time and that point is significant because it is the legal definition of the "born-on-date" of the firearm.  While other moments in time are certainly interesting, they cannot always be pinpointed to a date AND serial number with the same level of completeness.  Hope that helps clear it up a little.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 23:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm thinking it's pretty safe to say that Henry has the market cornered on the model 1890!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, Hank!</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>OK, but there will be no droolin'.  The 2nd from the top, ser#601805 I brung home from Ohio show. The little straight grip c.c.'d 2nd mod. ser#68850 just arrived in the mail today from Austin's guns. There's more coming next week, ser#277062, a minty plain pistol grip stock in w.r.f. and I'm hoping another nice 1st. model in .22long<img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261002_083017-1.jpg" alt="20261002_083017-1.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261002_083017-1.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261006_190835.jpg" alt="20261006_190835.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261006_190835.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261006_190922.jpg" alt="20261006_190922.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261006_190922.jpg" /></p>
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                    <title>Bill Jokela on Winchester 61 &#038; 62 banners on ebay... real or Key's reproductions?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>tionesta1,</p>
<p>Responding for your request for pictures has been quite a chore today! The bright sun does not help when taking pictures that are behind glass. We are still working to get the pictures uploaded to the forum with Bert's help. Hopefully we can get the problem resolved.</p>
<p>Best regards, Bill</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>george@georgeamlott.com on Safe dive #4 ….. Slide action edition.</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
Very nice. What ser#is the 1890.I am always looking for consecutive #'s to any of Mine<br />
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<p>191683</p>
<p>How about sharing a few more pics of yours…</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.</title>
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<p>According to the polishing room records, the last Model 75 serial number applied before the war ended was 45365, applied on January 31, 1943.  Any subsequent Model 75 serial number was assembled after WWII ended and is considered "post-war".<br />
Best Regards,<br />
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<p>Sometimes the line gets kind of fuzzy!<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span><em>To wit</em>, I own a Winchester Model 75 Sporting rifle serial number 39501.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>The receiver was numbered in 1942, but the barrel is dated “45”. So in this case the receiver may indeed be considered pre-war, but the barrel is post-war (or potentially “during the war” if it was made before August 1945.)<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>I see it as the odd duck it is: a pre-war receiver finally assembled sometime in (or after) 1945. <span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>As in so many other cases with Winchester, the lines get rather blurry and the hard and fast rules collectors like to have aren’t as clear cut as one might like.</p>
<p>BRP</p>
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