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                    <title>steve004 on A.O. Niedner</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tony -</p>
<p>Great video.  I've never owned anything like that rifle, but I sure would like to own it.  Seeing that Michael Petrov had restocked the rifle brings back pleasant memories of corresponding with him many years ago.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 22:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on A.O. Niedner</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I found this interesting enough, to post this video here on the forum, and in the .22 Rim Fire Section. Many of the Winchester collectors here are into shooting these fine rifles and collectables and I feel many will enjoy this as I have!</p>
<p>We're all very familiar with the well known gentleman, A.O. Niedner, and his many accomplishments.</p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 22:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<p><strong>Henry Mero said </strong><br />
I could never figure out what the difference was between "nickel frame" and "nickel trims". I have had guns letter with "nickel frame", "nickel trims",plural, "nickel trim",singular, and "part nickel", and they all looked the same. I guess it was a matter of ho was doing the ledger entries that particular day. Any thoughts.<br />
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<p>Henry,</p>
<p>Great referencing, and some nice M-1890 examples as the earlier and well known more costly Winchester rifles. I can agree that the letters we see, and the ones you're referring to, are mainly just interpretation differences between the researchers looking at the records.</p>
<p>The Full Nickle examples are extremely hard to find in both models, (M-1890 and M-1906), as the part Nickle, are also hard to find.</p>
<p>The M-1906, being 2/3rds the cost of the M-1890, due to the competition of other .22 caliber rifles, they had the smooth forearm handle, and the familiar corn cob handle, like it's predecessor, but the "Expert", with it's "fluted", handle was truly unique and not used any where to my knowledge on any other rifles.</p>
<p>I like you're examples! Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Once, Texas land record bound ledgers were kept by hand. I had occasion to research  a 220 acre holding of farm land in Austin County,  the provenance of which went back to a land grant by the Spanish King, from thence to Mexico, and eventually to Stephen F. Austin for his original colony. Washington-on-the-Brazos was nearby. </p>
<p>I killed my first deer on this property and knew it well. It belonged to a Swiss German immigrant family, one of many in the area. </p>
<p>The early land records were recorded by <em>escritarios </em>whose first language was not English, then by Americans of English ancestry, later by the children of immigrant Sweitzerdeutsch who were usually bilingual and spoke a dialect of German at home. </p>
<p>The spelling and calligraphy of the records reflected this cultural diversity and made me feel like a stranger in a strange land. It didn't  help that the writing often had to be reduced in size to fit on the page - to a degree the last lines required a magnifying glass. Amazingly, the inked letters were perfectly formed, apparently with a very thin nib. No blots or smudges. </p>
<p>The ledgers were very large and heavy, bound in canvas covered boards with leather spines. They were something of a time machine.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 16:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I could never figure out what the difference was between "nickel frame" and "nickel trims". I have had guns letter with "nickel frame", "nickel trims",plural, "nickel trim",singular, and "part nickel", and they all looked the same. I guess it was a matter of ho was doing the ledger entries that particular day. Any thoughts.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 15:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<p>Zebulon said </p>
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<p>Jeremy P said </p>
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Zebulon said<br />
I've only seen the 1906 at shows. </p>
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<p>I have one I'll bring you if you've never really gotten to manipulate one....early was .22 short and later S-L-LR....I can show you the different carrier, it's just a subtle mechanism change, hardly anything at all. Super fun to shoot! The action feels dainty at first (probably the skinny forend wood IMO), but they're obviously tough old girls in reality.<br />
I agree the half-nickel is more attractive.<br />
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<p>That would be interesting. I will bring my Model 62 for comparison. I put a Marble's tang sight on it and still.need to get it sighted in to suit me.<br />
All I can recall about the one Model 90 I had was it was considerably heavier than my 62. I expect the octagon barrel made for a lot of the difference. <br />
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<p>To add to the enlightenment (or confusion) I'll bring an 1890 in 22LR (from our friend Randy Saba!) and one in 22WRF. Latter needs to be shot as it has been on my table for a few shows and will hopefully be under someone else's care soon. I think I have a nice 62 around here but that would probably add to the confusion.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Yes, I need to bring the nice 1906 I got in Cody this summer, it needs a range break-in! and Mike, that one that's been on the table needs shooting, she probably think you've abandoned her!</p>
<p>Hell, make it a slide-action day!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Full nickel is pretty wild! Great four-pack there!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 15:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Henry Mero on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I may be a little,(lot), biased, but the nice part of the 1890's is they letter. How ever I have never seen one , like the bottom one, letter as a "<img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261028_094703.jpg" alt="20261028_094703.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261028_094703.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261028_094711.jpg" alt="20261028_094711.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261028_094711.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261028_094722.jpg" alt="20261028_094722.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261028_094722.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="3264" data-height="2448" title="20261028_094731.jpg" alt="20261028_094731.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/harry-mero/2026/10/20261028_094731.jpg" />gallery gun"</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony #5411 on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly why I posted the rifle here, as hearing the different opinions, and seeing the various interested members voice their experiences with this model is all the reason we enjoy collecting.</p>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Who at Winchester designed the carrier assembly that allowed cartridges of different lengths to feed and function? <br />
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<p>Bill,</p>
<p>That challenge fell on T.C. Johnson, according to Harold F. Williamson, as stated by Ned Schwing, in his Winchester Slide Action Book. The competition of the Stevens Arms Company, with a less expensive .22 caliber file, in competition with Winchesters M-1890 slide action rifle, the M-1906 was a less expensive version of the M-1890. </p>
<p>Like was said above, the first M-1906 was chambered in the .22 short caliber,(1906-1908) and based on the second model 1890 receiver. In 1908 Winchester decided to use the third model carrier called the "Cartridge Stop", allowing for the modified addition of the S, L, and L.R. Cartridges. These later examples will have the "B", stamped under the serial number, verse the letter, "A", on the earlier .22 short rifles. </p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 11:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<p>Jeremy P said </p>
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Zebulon said<br />
I've only seen the 1906 at shows. </p>
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<p>I have one I'll bring you if you've never really gotten to manipulate one....early was .22 short and later S-L-LR....I can show you the different carrier, it's just a subtle mechanism change, hardly anything at all. Super fun to shoot! The action feels dainty at first (probably the skinny forend wood IMO), but they're obviously tough old girls in reality.<br />
I agree the half-nickel is more attractive.<br />
  </p>
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<p>That would be interesting. I will bring my Model 62 for comparison. I put a Marble's tang sight on it and still.need to get it sighted in to suit me.<br />
All I can recall about the one Model 90 I had was it was considerably heavier than my 62. I expect the octagon barrel made for a lot of the difference. <br />
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<p>To add to the enlightenment (or confusion) I'll bring an 1890 in 22LR (from our friend Randy Saba!) and one in 22WRF. Latter needs to be shot as it has been on my table for a few shows and will hopefully be under someone else's care soon. I think I have a nice 62 around here but that would probably add to the confusion.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<p><strong>Jeremy P said </strong></p>
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Zebulon said<br />
I've only seen the 1906 at shows. </p>
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<p>I have one I'll bring you if you've never really gotten to manipulate one....early was .22 short and later S-L-LR....I can show you the different carrier, it's just a subtle mechanism change, hardly anything at all. Super fun to shoot! The action feels dainty at first (probably the skinny forend wood IMO), but they're obviously tough old girls in reality.<br />
I agree the half-nickel is more attractive.<br />
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<p>That would be interesting. I will bring my Model 62 for comparison. I put a Marble's tang sight on it and still.need to get it sighted in to suit me.</p>
<p>All I can recall about the one Model 90 I had was it was considerably heavier than my 62. I expect the octagon barrel made for a lot of the difference. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 02:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
I've only seen the 1906 at shows. </p>
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<p>I have one I'll bring you if you've never really gotten to manipulate one....early was .22 short and later S-L-LR....I can show you the different carrier, it's just a subtle mechanism change, hardly anything at all. Super fun to shoot! The action feels dainty at first (probably the skinny forend wood IMO), but they're obviously tough old girls in reality.</p>
<p>I agree the half-nickel is more attractive.</p>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Who at Winchester designed the carrier assembly that allowed cartridges of different lengths to feed and function? </p>
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                    <title>JWA on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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<strong>Blue Ridge Parson said </strong><br />
The 1906 Winchester was designed from the beginning (by way of a special cartridge carrier) to shoot Short, Long, or Long rifle interchangeably. <br />
BRP<br />
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<p>Not quite from the beginning, the very first Model 1906's were only available in .22 Short.......</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 00:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on 1906 Expert Model Nickel full and half plate</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The 1906 Winchester was designed from the beginning (by way of a special cartridge carrier) to shoot Short, Long, or Long rifle interchangeably. </p>
<p>BRP</p>
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