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                    <title>Zebulon on 52C Sporting with Pachmayr pad -- like mine. Are there more?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Do you recall any of my prior posts about my 52C ?   I assume not. </p>
<p>Steve has one a few serial digits off that wears the 88/100 buttplate. By 1960, the last year of production, most of them did. They downgraded the appearance of an expensive rifle to the point at least one owner fixed it with what was available, I suppose. Particularly if he wanted to adjust LOP. </p>
<p>My rifle came to me with what I've just illustrated. I just saw this GI auction and somebody else did the same thing.</p>
<p>I can't complain very much because it -- and a couple of other anomalies -- made my dealer believe it was a parts gun. It isn't but I bought it in 2002 for $950. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 01:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on 52C Sporting with Pachmayr pad -- like mine. Are there more?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>What I really want to know, is what kind of a Moron thinks that it is necessary or smart to put a recoil pad on a .22 rim fire rifle?</p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 01:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on 52C Sporting with Pachmayr pad -- like mine. Are there more?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><em>See   <a href="https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles---model-52/1956-vintage-winchester-model-52c-sporter--22lr-rifle-----------winchester--39-s-top-of-the-line--22-sporting-rifle---.cfm?gun_id=101552893" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles---model-52/1956-vintage-winchester-model-52c-sporter--22lr-rifle-----------winchester--39-s-top-of-the-line--22-sporting-rifle---.cfm?gun_id=101552893</a></em></p>
<p>Per Pogo, who wudda thunk it?  The linked auction is of a 1956 vintage Model 52C that has been restored and is at auction on Guns International. It has the exact same, thin brown Pachmayr recoil pad as mine.  (The images attached here are of my rifle, not the auctioned gun.)</p>
<p>Now, I know from Seewin that my 1960 specimen very probably wore a plastic buttplate identical to the one installed on the Model 88 and Model 100. As Winchester began to run low on the checkered steel diamond screw bezel buttplates previously standard for 52 Sporting models, the cheap plastic job became the substitute standard. At some point after mine left New Haven, a prior owner discarded the plastic buttplate and installed a Pachmayr pad, maintaining the factory LOP plus a little bit. </p>
<p>I haven't been able to download the GI pix but you can see by following the link that the pad on the 1956 specimen is identical to mine, except mine shows more wear. </p>
<p>I never expected to see its duplicate. I wonder if it's coincidence or if there are more?</p>
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<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="640" data-height="480" title="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-021.jpg" alt="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-021.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/09/M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-021.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="640" data-height="480" title="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-022.jpg" alt="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-022.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/09/M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-022.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="640" data-height="480" title="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-023.jpg" alt="M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-023.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/zebulon/2026/09/M52-Sporting-Rifle-99076C-023.jpg" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2026 01:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on My Wife needed a haircut…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>  Might be time for another haircut! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 11:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on My Wife needed a haircut…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! You really found a nice gun. And what a wonderful collection!! Thanks for sharing.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 06:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>btbell on Source for replacement 10 round magazine spring?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  Yes, looking for a spring for a 10-round 22LR mag.</p>
<p>I was hoping that someone had found a drop-in replacement from Numrich, MGW, Wolff, etc., perhaps designed for another application, but which would be workable.</p>
<p>There's a local shop selling vintage parts here in DFW (Lee's Gun Parts) who may have something; I'll try them first.</p>
<p>Sorry, I don't have a 10 round 22 Short magazine (or spring) to compare against, so wouldn't know what to look for.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Source for replacement 10 round magazine spring?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I assume you need one for a .22 LR? I would look for one of the junky Pro-Mag 10rd magazines made for the 52 and harvest the spring from it.  They are about $30 new.</p>
<p>I would also contact Wisner's, they make the current 5-rd magazine springs and maybe can make you one the correct length for the 10rd magazine.</p>
<p>I am looking for a <span style="text-decoration: underline">.22 Short 10rd</span> spring and they are unobtainium.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 19:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>btbell on Source for replacement 10 round magazine spring?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Anyone have a good source for a replacement spring for an original Winchester Model 52/56/57/69/75 10-round .22 magazine?</p>
<p>I haven't found anything specifically made for it, and while I see a few that might work, I would rather not do this by trial and error.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 18:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Winchester Model 74 in 22 Ahort</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>88 man, there are also some youtube videos that show the process for taking down IIRC...never hurts to look underneath her skirt but you should only do what's comfortable for you. I can't stand not knowing if there's rust or anything growing beneath so personally, I always have to look when I get a "new" rifle! 🙂</p>
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<p>...and thanks for the tag pic, Jeff. I may still make one to put on there to remind me!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 13:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>88 man on Winchester Model 74 in 22 Ahort</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>JWA Thank you ! That took me all of about 10 seconds to get the bolt out lol. Man was it bloody dirty 🤣. I used a brass brush and still had to scape crap off the bolt with a dental pick ! I'll be running a brush done the pipe and clean the inside of the receiver tomorrow night. No need for me to take the action out of the stock I should be able to get everything clean enough now. It does have 2 holes for a scope base so will maybe see what mount will fit as no idea what mounts it was tapped for.</strong></p>
<p>Thank you so much ! I'll post pics tomorrow night</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 02:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Winchester Model 74 in 22 Ahort</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,</p>
<p>Your Model 74 was made in 1939 (the second year of production).  </p>
<p>To clean the 74 it is VERY easy!  Make sure the rifle and magazine are empty.  You can remove the bolt by depressing the cross pin "button" at the back of the receiver, this should allow the complete bolt assembly to slide out of the back of the receiver.  That is all the disassembly that is recommended for routine cleaning.  Flush off the bolt, lightly oil and use a bore snake or cleaning rod from the breech end and you are good to go!</p>
<p>A couple of cautions, NEVER EVER cock the rifle with the safety in the safe "S" position!  This can (and does many times) completely jam the action as the bolt gets hooked on the safety spring internally and it is difficult to fix.  Winchester provided a warning card stating this but most of them are lost to time (see image below).</p>
<p>Also, it is a "takedown" model but be aware of a few things when doing so, first, the magazine tube must be removed or slid rearward for the action to separate from the stock so that is step "one".  There is a small spring in the stock under the end of the magazine tube that provides upward pressure on the tube.  It is not held in place by anything other than a little pressure and usually falls out on the floor when you are not looking.  The rifle will function without it but will misfeed once in awhile without the constant spring pressure.</p>
<p>Finally, if you take the rifle out of the stock, make sure the trigger spring is correctly reseated (hooked on both sides of the trigger).</p>
<p>Other than those quirks they are GREAT rifles, enjoy!</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 01:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>88 man on Winchester Model 74 in 22 Ahort</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Everyone. I recently picked up a couple Winchester 22 rifles. A model 250 lever and an interesting Model 74 in 22 short. From what I can find online it looks like it's a 1st year production with serial # 17281. The front and rear sights look original no peep sight as I've seen some online with them and no deflector. The action is dirty as hell but I put 20 rounds through it and it fires as fast as I can pull the trigger so pretty happy about that. I really don't know how to clean th action and unless it's pretty easy I don't want to strip it down so any help there would be great ! Can anyone confirm it's a 1st year rifle please ? </p>
<p>Thanks ! Ed</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 00:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ricklin on My Wife needed a haircut…</title>
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<p><strong>MidwestCrisis said </strong><br />
Pre 1984 penny I’ve found will work kind of like a file.  You can feel the rough spot under it until it smooths out.  <br />
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<p>My favorite as well. My gun work stand has a couple old pennies in a little puddle of light oil always. I have not tried a newer penny, prolly work the same. A few years from now they will all be old pennies.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Winchester 69a Match Year Identification? </title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p><strong>JWA</strong>'s detailed analysis is a tiny example of his work he's put together in his books. You will be amazed at his work as those books will be a lifelong reference material that can be gone back to over and over again! Enjoy!<img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Smile" alt="Smile" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" /></p>
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<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>upnorthairgunner on Winchester 69a Match Year Identification? </title>
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<p><strong>JWA said </strong><br />
Hi Upnorthairgunner,<br />
You are correct, the 6-groove barrel was changed to a 4-groove in 1948 and the trigger was serrated commencing in May of 1949 on the common 69A models such as the 6901 and 6902.  However, the Model 69A Match (G6941R) was a slow seller after WWII and the component changes tended to lag on it compared to the other 69A models.  An example of that is the straight, down-turned bolt handles, all of the other 69A catalog models got the upgraded swept bolt handles in September of 1948 whereas the Model 69A Match and 69A Target continued to be supplied with the leftover straight handles until 1952 when both those models were discontinued. <br />
So, to be safe, I stated 1948-1952 as your date range but with all of your early features combined you are correct in that it is very likely a late 1947 or early 1948 rifle, but the slim possibility exists that it could have been slightly later so I hedged my statement.  I should also explain that I excluded 1946-1947 from the date range because your Lyman sight has the later block style "57EW" marking, the post-war 1946 and early 1947 Lyman sights were marked differently.<br />
Sorry for the confusion.<br />
Best Regards,<br />
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<p>Thank you so much for that detailed analysis! I can't wait for your books to arrive! </p>
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