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                    <title>TXGunNut on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ben-</p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing it but I'm hoping it will follow someone else home. I suspect you'll have some other eye candy that will be equally tempting. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Very nice 52B Sporting at Collectors Firearms</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Bill. Congestion is likely at any hour of the day and possible at any other time. It's complicated by folks in throwaway cars with no regard for anyone's safety or traffic laws, let alone common courtesy. All the chaos of a video game without the reset option. I'm generally part of the problem because everyone else knows where they're going. Surface streets aren't much better. 45 between south edge of the metromess and the northern burbs of Houston is just the opposite, left lane is populated by luxucruisers trying to beat their best times and right lane is regulated by autonomous 18-wheelers. I used to shoot in Katy when it was a wide spot in the road surrounded by rice fields. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 13:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Very nice 52B Sporting at Collectors Firearms</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Houston :</p>
<p>Morning "rush hour"  4:30 am - 10:00 a.m.</p>
<p>Noon  "rush hour"  1030 am - 2:30.pm.</p>
<p>Afternoon "rush hour"  3:00pm - midnight</p>
<p>Traffic "hot spots" :  inner and outer loops and all freeways. The central business district. </p>
<p>beginning and end of jams: from Tomball to Galveston.; from Weimar to High Island.</p>
<p>Best mode of travel:  helicopter. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 06:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I'll have one on my table... come prepared to adopt it!  🙂  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 03:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Very nice 52B Sporting at Collectors Firearms</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Might be fun to go down there for a look around. Won't be able to help with the rent but the Galleria isn't too bad a drive as I recall, beats Houston anyway/</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 02:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Very nice 52B Sporting at Collectors Firearms</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Last week I decided to pay a visit to the new Collectors Firearms showroom in North Dallas. For those interested in the Model 52 Sporting, there is a beautiful B model there, very high grade Walnut, subject to these concerns: </p>
<p>1. It looks new, so new it may have been restored. I didn't handle it or examine it closely enough to even hazard a guess. </p>
<p>2. It was scoped with what appeared to be  a Leupold 1" scope in rings on a 2-piece base. Professionally done but still -- it's a B and has been drilled and tapped. </p>
<p>3. The tag price is $5,000 USD. This seems high but I don't keep up with the Sporting market. </p>
<p>I know CF gets a premium because it maintains a large bricks &#038; mortar store in a high rent neighborhood. The one in Houston is on Fondren. This Galleria neighborhood is not what it once was, so they may have been able to secure the lot more cheaply than 10 years ago. But they do have an overhead. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Agreed…  I tried to have him start one.  Maybe the “Great White Bearded One” can do his magic?  Having JWA chime in would be good too… Hope you’re doing well down there in the heat &#038; humidity <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Kiss" alt="Kiss" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-kiss.gif" />   Cody is just 46 days away my friend!  -Ben</p>
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<p>Ben-</p>
<p>Doing great, thanks! Jeremy and I slipped out to the range this morning. I got to see some of his latest plunder and he got to try some of his excellent reloads. Couldn't have asked for a nicer day if a bit overcast. Your ears may have been burning a bit, we are both looking forward to the Cody Show. My itinerary is a bit tight but if I don't dawdle I'll make the BYOB. It's 20+ hours for me and I need my rest stops!</p>
<p>I'd like to shoot one of those Dual Sight guns or at least handle one. Pics are great but a range trip is better!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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<p><strong>TXGunNut said </strong></p>
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<p>Ben said<br />
Mike...  The original post was by another person for a different rifle... <br />
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<p>Thanks, missed that on account of posting before coffee. That dual sight gun deserves a thread of its own.<br />
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Mike<br />
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<p>Agreed...  I tried to have him start one.  Maybe the "Great White Bearded One" can do his magic?  Having JWA chime in would be good too... Hope you're doing well down there in the heat &#038; humidity <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Kiss" alt="Kiss" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-kiss.gif" />   Cody is just 46 days away my friend!  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 19:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
Mike...  The original post was by another person for a different rifle... <br />
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<p>Thanks, missed that on account of posting before coffee. That dual sight gun deserves a thread of its own.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 18:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Mike...  The original post was by another person for a different rifle... </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 14:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Ben-</p>
<p>Noticed that too, but his original post describes some very desirable magazines. Maybe Jim will favor us with some pics of them. </p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 14:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the magazine has a "W" marked base.  That is a replacement.  I would surmise the lack of shooting over the years was from the original being lost or misplaced.  The chip at the bottom of the grip will be difficult to fix...may be simpler to use some "Old English" on the bare wood to hide the stark contrast.  You can also keep watch on ebay for a proper period stock without issues.  They show up from time to time and would be worth investing in. The "Japaned" finish on the scope is easily scratched.  You may want to wrap 1" paper strips around the tube and then slide them under the scope ring tension spots.  This will help minimize scratching.  Overall it is a very nice example of a scarce rifle.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 02:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on A strange 67a. Real or fake?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>This may be heaving the -- uh,  <em>excreta </em>into the proverbial punch bowl but has the OP actually shot the rifle yet  to see if the sights in question are not a significant improvement over the presumptive factory equipment?</p>
<p>I found a nice postwar 67A "boy's rifle" years ago and gave it to my son for teaching his children. It has served well but it would have been a lot better had it been equipped with an aperture sight. The factory open rear sight on my gun was not the ideal teaching tool.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 00:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>A Model 69 in that condition is pretty remarkable, thanks for sharing. The Dual-Sight designation is truly remarkable. Very nice!</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2026 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on VERY EARLY Model 69 . . . .</title>
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<p>Anthony said<br />
The Model 69 was mfg. between 1935-1939.<br />
The pictures posted sure help us to identify what you have, and in JWA's book on page #79, he talks about the dual sighted M-69, like yours, with the see through mounts, pg. #362/363, as we can see in the picture, and also according to the proof marks, it's certainly not a "parts clean up", rifle, which makes it mfg. as early as August,1937.  <br />
Unless I'm seeing this incorrectly in Jeff's book, the stocks thinner profile and angled for-end, on pg. 23, Catalog #G6901R, (1935-1937), is what's on you're rifle, making it an early Dual Sight model 69.<br />
I'm trying to understand where you stated only 769 were made, came from, as I don't see that information anywhere. It's certainly possible that I missed it, but if it's not in Jeff's book, with his unbelievable research, I wouldn't trust it. IMHO!<br />
Also with normal handling marks on the rifle, like you said it's in nice condition, even with the chip out of the pistol grip rifle stock at it's heal, and some scratches on the but stock. I'm in no way trying to bad rap you're nice inherited rifle, but for insurance purposes, trying to find another one in this configuration and nicer condition, I would have to guess at an insured replacement number around $2,000.00-$2,500.00.<br />
Thanks for sharing!<br />
Tony<br />
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<p>Not only from Winchester but also from<br />
Vincent L. Rausch book on the rifles and it’s on page 3 paragraph 3 where he says only 769 factory scoped model 69’s were made between 1937 and 1941.<br />
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<p>Being that the two years from August 1937 to August 1939, when the M-69A, went into production, I could very well see where a very limited production of <br />
"Dual Sighted" M-69 rifles were mfg. I just haven't seen any numbers verifying that, and will certainly note that. I don't have that publication, to look that up either or even reference it, but I do find that interesting. Remembering that the M-69 was mfg from 8/1935-8/1939, only, so you're information could hold water. IMO!</p>
<p>The number I posted, as an opinion on Insuring value, is not a number that I would pay for this rifle, or one similar, as it's a number that I feel that could be used as a replacement number for Insurance purposes. IMO!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2026 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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