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                    <title>Ben on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful!  Oh, I can't wait for the rest of the story to be discovered.  That trapdoor buttplate is wonderful...</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 04:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Sight insert tin appears to be hung up on the butt plate; have you tried loosening or removing the butt plate?</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 02:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>drice0517 on Increase Value for First Year Models..?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bert..!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 00:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I quite like that rifle, lucky "13" alone would have sold me on it!</p>
<p>I would try a glue stick tip, melt it and stick it to the lyman tube and see if you can pull it out.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Increase Value for First Year Models..?</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>With a high production model (like the 9422), "first-year" has little to no effect on the value (though many gun dealers will try to convince you otherwise).  Now, if the serial number was inside the first 100 rifles made, then Yes, there would be a moderate value premium.  </p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Looking for Serialnumber on a .22 Thumb trigger</title>
                    <link>https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-22-rim-fire/looking-for-serialnumber-on-a-22-thumb-trigger/#p180633</link>
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<p><strong>JWA said </strong><br />
Hi Goatkeeper,<br />
Keep the rifle as is!  Bluing it will de-value it (and not make it shoot any better).<br />
We can narrow the date of manufacture down even further with a bit more information.  Whether it has the WP in an oval proof mark in front of the breach on top of the barrel or not.<br />
Based on your roll-marking (with the Feb. 1905 patent date and lack of Ex. Long chambering) your rifle was made between: March 1905 – June 1908 if it does NOT have the proof marking and July 1908 – 1914 if it DOES have the proof marking.<br />
It is what I call a "Variation 21" (no proof mark) or "Variation 22" (with proof mark) in my notes.<br />
Best Regards,<br />
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<p>I knew there was a good reason we keep you around! <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /><img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>Bert</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Blue Ridge Parson on Model 52</title>
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                    <category>Winchester .22 Rim Fire</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That's a neat old 52.  The "Patent Applied For" marking is one you seldom see.  I also tip my hat to the craftsman who altered the (later era) Winchester butt plate by creating a trap door.  The A-5 scope looks to be in excellent shape.  Nice find!</p>
<p>BRP</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>seewin on Model 52</title>
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                    <category>Winchester .22 Rim Fire</category>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That's a very nice rifle with a host of custom touches. I like it.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Not the best pics but will have to do for now.  I was surprised to find the sight inserts in the trap on the buttstock,  however they seem to be stuck currently.  </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Attempting to load pics but not sure how well that going currently.  Standby</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 16:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>JWA on Looking for Serialnumber on a .22 Thumb trigger</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Goatkeeper,</p>
<p>Keep the rifle as is!  Bluing it will de-value it (and not make it shoot any better).</p>
<p>We can narrow the date of manufacture down even further with a bit more information.  Whether it has the WP in an oval proof mark in front of the breach on top of the barrel or not.</p>
<p>Based on your roll-marking (with the Feb. 1905 patent date and lack of Ex. Long chambering) your rifle was made between: March 1905 – June 1908 if it does <strong>NOT</strong> have the proof marking and July 1908 – 1914 if it <strong>DOES</strong> have the proof marking.</p>
<p>It is what I call a "Variation <strong>2<sup>1</sup></strong>" (no proof mark) or "Variation <strong>2<sup>2</sup></strong>" (with proof mark) in my notes.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 16:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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