Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester .22 Rim Fire

TXGunNut on 1890's

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 15:07:20 +0000

Good job, great looking group! How's the tether hunt going?

Mike

Anthony #5411 on Winchester model 52 pre a

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 15:03:47 +0000

This one is one of the more important pics to try to decipher what he has here, as the "27", is obvious verifying the year mfg. as 1927, and the "C", is obvious in the beginning, some proof marks, and a punch Dot, but after the caliber designation of the .22 L, maybe some better pictures in natural light can tell us what that says, as it's hard to make out, even blowing it up on the phone.

Darn thing turned again!

Tony

Anthony #5411 on Winchester model 52 pre a

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:55:33 +0000

Randy has sent me some pictures to post here as I have asked him for a few with less glare and some more clarifying pictures. Winchester M-52 Pre-A, #12031.

Here's some of the pics he sent over, as the last couple seemed to turn, as I kept them small for the proper size to view here. Sure looks like someone made a nice custom stock for this early Pre A.

Tony

JWA on 1890's

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:37:07 +0000

Great looking accumulation Henry! Thanks for sharing.

Best Regards,

tionesta1 (AL) on 1890's

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:35:28 +0000

Henry,

Darn nice model 90's you found there. It was great talking with you.

Nice looking collection as always.

Anthony #5411 on 1890's

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 14:35:15 +0000

Henry,

What a nice Collection you're building! Second to none in the M-90 Category! IMO!

You're Welcome!

Tony

Henry Mero on 1890's

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 12:39:22 +0000

Here's a few that followed Me home from O.G.C.A. Wellington. Thank You George & Tony. The rack is fillingup.

Anthony #5411 on Winchester model 52 pre a

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 12:32:35 +0000

Welcome Randy,

I echo Ben's post. He's spot on as usual with his comment. Seewin and BRP, are two of our most knowledgeable M-52 guy's here along with a few others. They will be along, I'm sure after you post pictures that we're looking forward to.

The fact that you say you're Pr-A, ha some "special stuff", on it surely peaks my interest.

Tony

Ben on Winchester model 52 pre a

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 01:33:58 +0000

Welcome aboard. You will find whatever you want to know about your 52 here... there are several members that freely share their knowledge...post pics, ask questions... you will be given clear facts that you can bank on. Be sure to check previous issues of the clubs magazine... there's alot of information on the 52. Cheers. Ben

Tinman770 on Winchester model 52 pre a

Fri, 02 Oct 2026 00:52:05 +0000

I’m gonna post some pictures of a pre-a Winchester model 52 that I took in on the trade Cody museum doesn’t have anything on other than who is made in 1927. It’s got a lot of special stuff about it. I want to know what you guys think.

Anthony #5411 on Eagle Scout Boy Scout Commemoratives

Tue, 29 Sep 2026 21:24:32 +0000

Randy,

Jim DeRosit and his wife had a nice exhibit set up at the OGCA/WACA Show over the weekend and they were very pleasant to talk with, and share they're knowledge on the Eagle Scout Rifles that they had there along with the other accoutrements also.

It might be another avenue if you haven't contacted them yet.

Tony

Randy3590 on Eagle Scout Boy Scout Commemoratives

Fri, 25 Sep 2026 16:14:50 +0000

Still looking to buy individual or sets of these guns

i have 2 Eagles #20 and #984 that need a matching Boy Scout

I have #417 Boy Scout that needs the matching Eagle

will do GunTab or meet in person

Randy

randyeverettnew@yahoo.com

814-494-0359 Text or call

Zebulon on Interesting Model 121 (Post-'63 warning) :)

Sun, 20 Sep 2026 13:02:18 +0000

Mike,

The Savage 99A evaluation report is a PDF. I'll email it to you when I get to my office later this morning.

Jeremy P on Interesting Model 121 (Post-'63 warning) :)

Sun, 20 Sep 2026 12:12:49 +0000

TXGunNut said

I'm looking forward to seeing this Model 121.

Mike

I'll bring it out! There's a few in line still for a range visit.

Zeb, an evaluation report on one of their R&D samples is pretty neat, I'd like to read that, unless of course, it's a bunch of engineering speak only 🙂

Zebulon on Interesting Model 121 (Post-'63 warning) :)

Sun, 20 Sep 2026 02:13:07 +0000

Mike,

Some corporate snakes and ladders:

Kimber Manufacturing, Inc. is the entity that has built all the very nice Kimber branded handguns and a line of rifles that are somewhat similar to those once offered by Kimber of Oregon, a corporation based in Clackamas, Oregon that was established by Jack Warne and his son, Gregg Warne, both now deceased.

Kimber of Oregon outgrew its working capital on the late Eighties and failed, when a wealthy timber industry investor was ruined by the Spotted Owl and could not contribute the promised refinancing funds. The corporation was liquidated in the early Nineties and its machines and tooling abandoned.

Leslie Edelman was the owner of Nationwide Sports Distributors and also of Jerico Precision Manufacturing, of Yonkers, NY, a CNC manufacturer. After KofO's demise, Edelman and Gregg Warne agreed to form Kimber of America to continue manufacturing the Kimber line of rifles in Yonkers. However, they did not get along and fairly quickly Edelman bought Gregg Warne out and began manufacturing a line of rifles sufficiently different that Warne could have no claim.

Edelman then merged Jerico with Kimber of America into a new entity, Kimber Manufacturing, and began making a line of 1911-based pistols as well as the rifles. Eventually, Edelman moved Kimber Manufacturing to Troy Alabama. The CNC capabilities of Jerico are what enabled the excellent quality of the Kimber pistols, at a less than custom price. In this respect, Edelman was well ahead of his time.

Bottom line: the NY/Alabama Kimber is not a continuation of the Oregon Kimber and the product lines of the two were never the same.

As a matter of interest for those familiar with Dwight Mann, who presently owns and operates Sportsman's Legacy in Montana, Dwight was Vice President of Sales for both Kimber of Oregon and Kimber of America. So he has worked for both the Warnes and Edelman and probably knows more about the history of the two companies than any man alive.