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                    <title>seewin on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Number 118 is an interesting rifle. I question why it has proofmarks on the LH side of barrel and the receiver. On a rifle this early, they should be both be on the top side of the rifle. Winchester started putting the barrel proof on side of the receiver around 10XXX. Early in production, Winchester moved the barrel proof to the LH side, but only about 45 degrees down from previous vertical location. This was to prevent it from being hidden by the rear scope blocks when supplied. The receiver proof remained on the top side. At about 10XXX, both proofs were moved to the more familiar location seen on later rifles. #118 has the much this later proofmark location. <img data-upload="1" data-width="2144" data-height="1424" title="DSC7478.JPG" alt="DSC7478.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/seewin/2026/08/DSC7478.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="2144" data-height="1424" title="DSC_4177.JPG" alt="DSC_4177.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/seewin/2026/08/DSC_4177.JPG" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="1424" data-height="946" title="DSC_4155.JPG" alt="DSC_4155.JPG" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/seewin/2026/08/DSC_4155.JPG" />The stock looks to be off a much later rifle as well. The end of the pistol grip should be almost round on an early rifle up to about s/n 3000. The buttplate should have horizontal lines only also. See below.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 02:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>MFoster on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for the info,  lots to go on.  I cleaned the small parts today.   It seems the wax is the way to go and is safe for both metal components as well as the stock.  I will order some of the wax for the final touch.  Once I reassemble I’ll get it out to send some rounds down range.  Any suggestions on ammo, I have a  large mix of standard bulk as well as some various match and target rounds,  I typically shoot till I find what the rifle likes best,  but if there is a round that is commonly liked by the 52 I can narrow the work down a bit.  Please let me know if any additional pics are needed.  Once I get the rifle cleaned up and reassembled I’ll send some more as well as some groupings.   Thanks again for all the info.  </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Model 52</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 01:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>btbell on Non Original Box W/ Model 61</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Twobit,</p>
<p>Not sure if you already have this in your database, but I participated in an auction in 2020 (won a beautiful 52B Sporter, lost on a deluxe boxed 75 Sporter - it's still painful!) where there were 5 boxed Win 61's, among others.</p>
<p>My guess, from the quality of the rest of the collection, is that all are genuine.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.icollector.com/CHUCK-SCALLORN-ESTATE-AUCTION_a36597?p=1&amp;ps=50&amp;so=1&amp;q=box" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.icollector.com/CHUCK-SCALLORN-ESTATE-AUCTION_a36597?p=1&#038;ps=50&#038;so=1&#038;q=box</a></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>btbell on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>MFoster,</p>
<p>Very nice &#038; cool rifle!</p>
<p>Now that it's apart, there is some opportunity to do some clean up.</p>
<p>It has been suggested to use a small brass or copper wire brush or wool (pref. copper/bronze wool vs. steel), which will work OK.  A common alternative in the collector community is to use a Big 45 pad to clean up steel parts, and mineral spirits/wood oils for the stock, both followed by an application of Renaissance Wax for long term protection.</p>
<p>There are many threads on the topic both here and at Rimfirecentral.com, and a few different opinions as to the very best approach, but most work pretty well; just don't get carried away!  Here's a thread to get you started:  <a href="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/winchester-model-52.1240615/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/winchester-model-52.1240615/</a></p>
<p>If you have any issues with your A5 scope, they can usually also be addressed; just ask!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 00:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>Bert H. said </strong></p>
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<p>Ben said<br />
Behave Bert....  you're starting to "Clarence"... <br />
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<p>I am behaving... well sort of. <br />
I did spend 4-hours today at the shooting range.  I shot 100-rounds through that Model 61 you scammed me on.  The best I could get was a 1.5" group @ 50-yards (using cheap Winchester bulk 22 Mag ammo).  I need to find a better brand of ammo and give it another try at the range. On a positive note, the Weaver K6 Steel tube scope looks good on it, and it dialed in quickly.<br />
On a more positive note, this is the 100-yd 5-shot group I shot today with the Model 54 22 Hornet;</p>
<p>13.0 grains of Lil-Gun, 40-gr Hornady V-Max bullet, W-W Super cases.  The first shot was the flyer, then I settled down and managed a .57" 4-shot group.  I am ready for a Gopher trip.<br />
Bert <br />
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<p>Looks terrible. You should give that turd to me.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 21:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Anthony on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>seewin said </strong><br />
Based on the pictures of the inletting, I believe you have a customized factory stock from a later "Speedlock" model 52. This is based on the fact that the inletting around the trigger is much larger than the original early rifles. The reason for the later difference was because the Speedlock triggers required a stamped steel housing, which in turn, required a larger inletted area for clearance. Your stock could either be a modified/customized target stock, or a "let in" stock blank which was sold by Winchester for shooters that wanted to customize their 52 to meet their personal physical requirements. See below for the inletting on #12 which will be the same on all early pre Speedlock rifles. <br />
     Also, your barrel is exactly like #12. I have attached pictures for your comparison. Note that neither barrel has "MODEL 52" in the rollstamp, indicating that the early barrels most likely used Winder Musket barrels, which used exactly the same profile.<br />
Steve<br />
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<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I am glad that you we're able to add this to the post, as I think many of us we're wondering if we'd see any pics of the M-52, #13, being taken down an then being identified as such a nice specimen. It's always a pleasure to read you're experienced opinions.</p>
<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I feel you did a great job of dismantling you're newly acquired rifle. I hop that you don't plan on altering it's existence at all, besides the great recommendations here to soak it and wipe it down. You're historical piece is one of the main reasons many of us follow this forum and add our two cents. If you decide to shoot it, which it was intended to do, report back with range reports. Like the others have said, you can take Steve's, (seewin), advice and knowledgeable information to the Bank.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 12:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
Behave Bert....  you're starting to "Clarence"... </p>
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<p>I am behaving... well sort of. </p>
<p>I did spend 4-hours today at the shooting range.  I shot 100-rounds through that Model 61 you scammed me on.  The best I could get was a 1.5" group @ 50-yards (using cheap Winchester bulk 22 Mag ammo).  I need to find a better brand of ammo and give it another try at the range. On a positive note, the Weaver K6 Steel tube scope looks good on it, and it dialed in quickly.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, this is the 100-yd 5-shot group I shot today with the Model 54 22 Hornet;</p>
<p><img data-upload="1" data-width="1953" data-height="1700" title="M54-Hornet-8-14-26.jpg" alt="M54-Hornet-8-14-26.jpg" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-image-uploads/bert-h/2026/08/M54-Hornet-8-14-26.jpg" /></p>
<p>13.0 grains of Lil-Gun, 40-gr Hornady V-Max bullet, W-W Super cases.  The first shot was the flyer, then I settled down and managed a .57" 4-shot group.  I am ready for a Gopher trip.</p>
<p>Bert </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Behave Bert....  you're starting to "Clarence"... </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 02:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>86Win said </strong><br />
I have a friend who has a model 52 SN 114. He has offered to furnish pictures. Is this of interest? Don<br />
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<p>Yes, about as much as a T**d in a punch bowl!  </p>
<p>Seriously, Yes it is off interest <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2026 01:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Jeremy P on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>86Win said </strong><br />
I have a friend who has a model 52 SN 114. He has offered to furnish pictures. Is this of interest? Don<br />
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<p>I'm going to go out on a limb here and say....YES PLEASE <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Cool" alt="Cool" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-cool.gif" /></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 19:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Model 52</title>
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<p><strong>Ben said </strong><br />
You can "bank" Steve's information.  His knowledge is unsurpassed when it comes to the Winchester 52.... his personal collection is more complete and extensive regarding related items &#038; just cool stuff than any other firearm collection I've ever encountered to date.  Now, if Steve would just finish his "opus" on the Model 52, my gun reference library will be complete.... at least until JWA gets the remainder of his books finished... 🙂  I love having smart friends.... cheers!<br />
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<p>I second Ben's request. At least give us hope for Volume I before I assume room temperature. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>86Win on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who has a model 52 SN 114. He has offered to furnish pictures. Is this of interest? Don</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 17:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on Model 52</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Com'on M.O.M..... all it takes is have a little B.B.Q. gathering (Oysters included) and people will gladly become friends with you!  Even if you are an old cantankerous curmudgeon 🙂</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2026 03:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Bert H. on Bolts added to grip area to prevent cracking. Is it helpful?</title>
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<p><strong>86Win said </strong><br />
My name is Don. Why do you refer to me as BUBBA. BTW REd Green was my mentor.<br />
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<p>Don,</p>
<p>If the shoe fits...</p>
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