Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester .22 Rim Fire

george@georgeamlott.com on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 13:03:51 +0000

Jeremy P said
OK fine maybe I'll dig out the others and take a photo, since they're at the front of the safe more or less....

Please do…..😁

Jeremy P on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 12:58:38 +0000

OK fine maybe I'll dig out the others and take a photo, since they're at the front of the safe more or less....

Anthony #5411 on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 11:54:27 +0000

Mike,

A nice group you have assembled there. As you're well aware of, these have always been fun to shoot.

Thanks for sharing!

BRP,

You're extremely nice M-75 is very much appreciated here by us all. You're descriptions of the sights, and explaining the enhanced functions really helped me to understand their intended purposes, bringing to light this nice set up, the original owner seemed to have ordered. What a nice example.

Thanks for sharing!

Tony

Rick C on Winchester 61 & 62 banners on ebay... real or Key's reproductions?

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 10:50:50 +0000

Bill Jokela said
My first time responding to a thread on this forum. My fiance Jo and I own four of these original banners. We own two model 61, one model 62 and one Super W Speed banners and have displayed them with our gun collections at Cody recently. These banners were made in 1932 to advertise these products. If you had original banners and repro banners side by side the repros would jump out as too bright because of the enhanced brighteners and dyes used in modern post war papers. Also, most original banners will have been folded once or twice when they were mailed. Inspect the paper for wrinkles, dirt on the paper and folded corners or small tears. After all these banners are 94 years old and were meant to be thrown away.

Hi Bill, thanks for your first post. Can you advise if your original banners show the model number partially covered up the same as the ones here we’re discussing from eBay? The 61 is only slightly covered at the bottom but, the 62 a lot more and I wouldn’t think they would do that 🤷🏼‍♂️

TXGunNut on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Mon, 05 Oct 2026 00:07:22 +0000

Awesome sight package indeed, BRP! Stock is in spectacular condition. I've always wanted one of those adjustable rear apertures but I'll muddle along with my drill press. Works great but only adjusts in one direction. Fortunately it's the same direction my eyes seem to be going. Nice pics!

Mike

george@georgeamlott.com on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 23:10:08 +0000

BRP,

Thanks for posting. The finish on that rifle is really nice. I can see now what Jeff was talking about with the fine cut checkering vs the later sporters. The sight is cool too. Adds a little bit of class to an already beautiful example.

Anyone else…. Keep ‘em coming!

Anthony #5411 on Winchester model 52 pre a

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 22:29:37 +0000

Bert H. said
Tony,
The chrome moly barrels were typically marked "CMS", and the Model 53 rifles with rare exception were all manufactured with Nickel Steel barrels (usually marked "MNS"). Nickel Steel was phased out with CMS (Proof Steel) beginning in April 1932 for all of the various center fire rifle models.
Bert

Bert H. said

Blue Ridge Parson said
The "C" on the bottom of the barrel may denote what steel was used in making the barrel.
BRP

In 1927, the "C" most likely indicated "Crucible". Th Crucible Steel Company was one of several suppliers that Winchester purchased steel from.
Bert

Bert,

Thanks for refreshing my rusty memory, as it plainly makes sense now. The Crucible steel surely applies here.

Tony

Blue Ridge Parson on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 22:07:38 +0000

After finishing up one of the many outdoor projects that I must complete before cold weather descends on Big Sky Country, I pulled this pre-War Winchester 75 Sporting rifle out of the safe.

The serial number and the barrel date both indicate a 1939 rifle, so it is one of the earliest Sporters made.

The interesting thing about this rifle for me was the upgraded sights with which the original owner chose to equip this rifle. On the Lyman 57 E receiver sight, there is a very early Merit #3 adjustable aperture. You almost never see these tiny little Merit aperture discs today. Last one I recall seeing went for north of $100. The larger Merit discs (with the rubber flange) are quite common, but these little all steel discs are quite rare. And it works as intended, as the pics below show. The shooter dials in his perfect size opening.

The front sight is a King reflector sight, which has a tiny mirror that directs light toward the gold bead, which remains very visible through this indirect application of daylight to the bead.

These sights show that my newest pre-war 75 Sporter was owned by a very discerning sportsman, who had definite opinions about how to improve his chances in the field. I think its pretty cool to own an 87 year old rifle in such nice condition with some rarely encountered sights. Enjoy!

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BRP

Buck94 on Winchester 61 & 62 banners on ebay... real or Key's reproductions?

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 21:39:43 +0000

Bill Jokela said
My first time responding to a thread on this forum. My fiance Jo and I own four of these original banners. We own two model 61, one model 62 and one Super W Speed banners and have displayed them with our gun collections at Cody recently. These banners were made in 1932 to advertise these products. If you had original banners and repro banners side by side the repros would jump out as too bright because of the enhanced brighteners and dyes used in modern post war papers. Also, most original banners will have been folded once or twice when they were mailed. Inspect the paper for wrinkles, dirt on the paper and folded corners or small tears. After all these banners are 94 years old and were meant to be thrown away.

I agree with Bill. These are too bright and too clean to be 94 years old! eBay has a lot of scammers who create fake “vintage” items to rip off collectors. Sadly, I learned the hard way and got taken a couple times!

george@georgeamlott.com on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 20:02:56 +0000

TXGunNut said
As requested, good day for safe diving. One original, two shooters, all fun! Sight package on middle Target made possible by the great detail of the sight chapter of JWA’s book, his spare parts stash, some online catalog sleuthing, my parts stash, and a bit of gentle woodworking. Sporting has some of the straightest wood I’ve seen, also has a somewhat period Weaver 4X scope. I wish I had the original sights but the scope makes it a better shooter as the original rear sight was not a receiver sight. I guess they were out of pretty wood when they made this one but I like it anyway.

Mike

Mike,

That Weaver scope looks like it was made for that rifle….and your right about the straight grain. Very nice display rack too!

Thanks!

Keep the pics coming guys 😁

TXGunNut on Model 75s….. Thanks JWA.

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 18:31:29 +0000

As requested, good day for safe diving. One original, two shooters, all fun! Sight package on middle Target made possible by the great detail of the sight chapter of JWA’s book, his spare parts stash, some online catalog sleuthing, my parts stash, and a bit of gentle woodworking. Sporting has some of the straightest wood I’ve seen on a Sporting, also has a somewhat period Weaver 4X scope. I wish I had the original sights but the scope makes it a better shooter as the original rear sight was not a receiver sight. I guess they were out of pretty wood when they made this one but I like it anyway.

Mike

Bill Jokela on Winchester 61 & 62 banners on ebay... real or Key's reproductions?

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 18:19:13 +0000

My first time responding to a thread on this forum. My fiance Jo and I own four of these original banners. We own two model 61, one model 62 and one Super W Speed banners and have displayed them with our gun collections at Cody recently. These banners were made in 1932 to advertise these products. If you had original banners and repro banners side by side the repros would jump out as too bright because of the enhanced brighteners and dyes used in modern post war papers. Also, most original banners will have been folded once or twice when they were mailed. Inspect the paper for wrinkles, dirt on the paper and folded corners or small tears. After all these banners are 94 years old and were meant to be thrown away.

Bert H. on Winchester model 52 pre a

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 16:21:51 +0000

Blue Ridge Parson said
The "C" on the bottom of the barrel may denote what steel was used in making the barrel.
BRP

In 1927, the "C" most likely indicated "Crucible". Th Crucible Steel Company was one of several suppliers that Winchester purchased steel from.

Bert

Bert H. on Winchester model 52 pre a

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 16:16:10 +0000

Tony,

The chrome moly barrels were typically marked "CMS", and the Model 53 rifles with rare exception were all manufactured with Nickel Steel barrels (usually marked "MNS"). Nickel Steel was phased out with CMS (Proof Steel) beginning in April 1932 for all of the various center fire rifle models.

Bert

MidwestCrisis on Winchester 61 & 62 banners on ebay... real or Key's reproductions?

Sun, 04 Oct 2026 16:04:38 +0000

This reminds me of the thread about original vs reproduction factory tags. That printing looks really modern to me. I think they’re worth $40. If no one here can say they verified them. The seller is a liar.