Winchester Collector - Forum: Winchester .22 Rim Fire

seewin on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:34:40 +0000

Based on the pictures of the inletting, I believe you have a customized factory stock from a later "Speedlock" model 52. This is based on the fact that the inletting around the trigger is much larger than the original early rifles. The reason for the later difference was because the Speedlock triggers required a stamped steel housing, which in turn, required a larger inletted area for clearance. Your stock could either be a modified/customized target stock, or a "let in" stock blank which was sold by Winchester for shooters that wanted to customize their 52 to meet their personal physical requirements. See below for the inletting on #12 which will be the same on all early pre Speedlock rifles.

Also, your barrel is exactly like #12. I have attached pictures for your comparison. Note that neither barrel has "MODEL 52" in the rollstamp, indicating that the early barrels most likely used Winder Musket barrels, which used exactly the same profile.

Steve

Bert H. on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 17:46:56 +0000

Great job getting it disassembled! I highly recommend placing all of the loose steel pieces and parts that you removed/disassembled into a container (plastic tub) of Kroil and let them soak over night. Use a small copper or brass wire brush and/or wool to gently scrub all of the grime and corrosion off of each part, then finish cleaning them in a tub of acetone before reassembling.

Bert

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:35:51 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:25:08 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:18:48 +0000

Well I had since been able to remove the stock pictures to follow

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:06:30 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:05:06 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:01:53 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:59:48 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:56:47 +0000

MFoster on Model 52

Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:53:58 +0000

I have finally gotten some time and have made some attempts to remove the stock. It is very tight and there is no wiggle room which leaves me very nervous to continue at this time. However, I was able to take some additional pictures as well as being able to remove the Lyman inserts can that was stuck in the trap, thanks to the individual that suggested using a hot glue stick. Please let me know any suggestions for removing the stock, I will leave the rifle out today for additional attempts and pics if needed. Thanks for all the help and advice.

twobit on Non Original Box W/ Model 61

Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:13:30 +0000

tionesta1 said
Cabelas Kansas City has three boxed Model 61's. Probably left overs from Mr. Keys?

That apparently is where this one came from according to the seller.

Michael

tionesta1 on Non Original Box W/ Model 61

Wed, 12 Aug 2026 20:11:37 +0000

Cabelas Kansas City has three boxed Model 61's. Probably left overs from Mr. Keys?

Bert H. on Non Original Box W/ Model 61

Wed, 12 Aug 2026 19:19:28 +0000

Ben said
It was shared with me that a certain Winchester author from Kansas has been associated with questionable individuals responsible for "rare" Model 61 rifles in the past... so Kansas may see a larger percentage of these. I've seen several questionable "Boxed" Model 61's at the Tulsa show on the lower level, middle of the room near the food vendors... Caveat Emptor

Ben,

There is nothing wrong with sharing that name... C.H. Key. It is my understanding that he is no longer among us.

Bert