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                    <title>bStrongTO on model 1894 25-35 WCF</title>
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<p><strong>bStrongTO said </strong><br />
I know this thread is older, but it’s a great title.<br />
Unfortunately the lack of experience may have contributed to this disaster. When trying to confirm any markings on who or where the refurbishment, based on notes past down done in 1970, a little splitting of the wood.<br />
SN shows 1911, I’m waiting for the letters.<br />
I’m hoping to get this done by Turnbull case coloring. Any ideas? The blueing and finish on the wood is a little wrong dates?<br />
Luckily we have a few other models, but in 1894 1 94’ 25-35 (1911)1 30 (1901). </p>
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<p>As you can see this one stand<span>s</span> out and seems like it needs a little change?</p>
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                    <title>bStrongTO on model 1894 25-35 WCF</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I know this thread is older, but it’s a great title.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the lack of experience may have contributed to this disaster. When trying to confirm any markings on who or where the refurbishment, based on notes past down done in 1970, a little splitting of the wood.</p>
<p>SN shows 1911, I’m waiting for the letters.</p>
<p>I’m hoping to get this done by Turnbull case coloring. Any ideas? The blueing and finish on the wood is a little wrong dates?</p>
<p>Luckily we have a few other models, but in 1894 1 94’ 25-35 (1911)1 30 (1901). </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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<strong>kevindpm61 said </strong><br />
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but, I think the 250-3000 was the first American cartridge to go over 3000 ft./s.  I believe it was the 280 Ross that went over 3000 ft./s first<br />
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<p>I believe you may be correct, when you search it up, this is what I found. 🤷🏼‍♂️</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but, I think the 250-3000 was the first American cartridge to go over 3000 ft./s.  I believe it was the 280 Ross that went over 3000 ft./s first</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 18:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Tedk on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Big fan of the ‘Perch Belly’ stock on an 1899</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 17:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Rick C on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’ll get a few pics of the 1895 and post soon. It’s one of my favs. 😬</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Very nice rifles.  I don't have one but I tend to look at the 1895 Model because it is antique.  I have a Newton so I've always liked his cartridges. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That looks like a really nice rifle Ian.  I think the 1899 250-3000 rifles are really fun to shoot and great to carry in the woods.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><strong>Rick C said </strong><br />
Very nice rifle and great photos mrcvs. I was always intrigued by the first commercial cartridge to reach 3000fps(70gr bullet) and wanted one. The 1899 was well ahead of its time. 🤐<br />
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<p>Those are auction house photographs, as I’m not nearly that good.  Another one came up for auction recently, not quite as nice as mine, but almost so, and the hammer price was attractive.  I didn’t bid on it as I was chasing down something else later in the auction.  Had I to do it over in retrospect, I would have bid on it.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Very nice rifle and great photos mrcvs. I was always intrigued by the first commercial cartridge to reach 3000fps(87gr bullet) and wanted one. The 1899 was well ahead of its time. 🤐</p>
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Thanks.<br />
Top to bottom:<br />
First year 1899 250-3000 perch belly made in 1915 TD, pg, 22" bl checkering,<br />
99F TD 22" bl feather weight, 303 made in 1928.<br />
99E 22” bl scarce solid frame 22 Hi Power made in 1932<br />
99H bl band carbine 20" bl 30-30 made in 1934.<br />
Also have a scarce high condition Savage model 1895 with octagon bl and has the bolt cocking indicator and shot indicator 5000 serial number range made in 1896.<br />
Ammo came from gun shows and GI.<br />
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<p>I also have a .250-3000 from 1915.  What amazes me about this cartridge is that it’s not a necked down .303 Savage, but, instead, the parent case is .30-06.</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Top to bottom:</p>
<p>First year 1899 250-3000 perch belly made in 1915 TD, pg, 22" bl checkering,</p>
<p>99F TD 22" bl feather weight, 303 made in 1928.</p>
<p>99E 22” bl scarce solid frame 22 Hi Power made in 1932</p>
<p>99H bl band carbine 20" bl 30-30 made in 1934.</p>
<p>Also have a scarce high condition Savage model 1895 with octagon bl and has the bolt cocking indicator and shot indicator 5000 serial number range made in 1896.</p>
<p>Ammo came from gun shows and GI.</p>
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<p><strong>Rick C said </strong><br />
While we’re on the topic, a few of mine. And very nice gun mrcvs. I’m jealous. <br />
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<p>I think yours are beautiful!  How about details on each?  And where did you get the vintage ammunition?  I need that to complete the package!</p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>While we’re on the topic, a few of mine. And very nice gun mrcvs. I’m jealous. </p>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Savage 99EG in 250-3000 was so far ahead of its time, there really was nothing else like it.  The EG has enough barrel length to stabilize a 100 grain bullet with the 1-14 twist Savage had settled on to get an 87 grain bullet to 3000 fs.  </p>
<p>While the 30 Winchester was still common among East Texas hunters in the postwar years (after that area's deer herd recovered from Depression Era poaching and the screw worm),  Central and West Texas saw a lot of Savage rifles, particularly after Bill Weaver made scopes affordable for the working man. As I recall,  both the EG and the R were factory drilled and tapped when production restarted in the late Forties.</p>
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