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                    <title>Rick C on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>Top to bottom:</p>
<p>First year 1899 250-3000 perch belly made in 1915 TD, pg, 22" bl checkering,</p>
<p>99F TD 22" bl feather weight, 303 made in 1928.</p>
<p>99 solid frame 22 Hi Power made in 1932</p>
<p>99H bl band carbine 20" bl 30-30 made in 1934.</p>
<p>Also have a model 1895 with the bolt cocking indicator and shot indicator 5000 serial number range. </p>
<p>Ammo came from gun shows and GI.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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<p><strong>Rick C said </strong><br />
While we’re on the topic, a few of mine. And very nice gun mrcvs. I’m jealous. <br />
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<p>I think yours are beautiful!  How about details on each?  And where did you get the vintage ammunition?  I need that to complete the package!</p>
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                    <title>Rick C on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>While we’re on the topic, a few of mine. And very nice gun mrcvs. I’m jealous. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 17:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Savage 99EG in 250-3000 was so far ahead of its time, there really was nothing else like it.  The EG has enough barrel length to stabilize a 100 grain bullet with the 1-14 twist Savage had settled on to get an 87 grain bullet to 3000 fs.  </p>
<p>While the 30 Winchester was still common among East Texas hunters in the postwar years (after that area's deer herd recovered from Depression Era poaching and the screw worm),  Central and West Texas saw a lot of Savage rifles, particularly after Bill Weaver made scopes affordable for the working man. As I recall,  both the EG and the R were factory drilled and tapped when production restarted in the late Forties.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 13:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>450 Fuller on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Most interesting.</p>
<p>The pictured custom 1899 apparently took some time to build, accounting for the order and delivery dates. The sights and checking are excellent, if not unique.</p>
<p>I own a Savage EG 1899 in 250-3000 and Arthur Savage derived a first rate  usable rifle. For Canadian readers, a 99 in 30 WCF belonging to one Albert Johnson kept the RCMP busy for a good while in the Northwest Territories about 1932-33. Still one of the longest manhunts in Canadian enforcement history.</p>
<p>The history of the 1895 and the 30-03 Govt cartridge is also quite a story. In the 1980s, I owned two 1895 carbines in 30-03 caliber. Wish I still owned them now.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 21:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>James W on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>That is a beautiful gun! Congratulations!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Kirk Durston on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful condition! I would not be able to pass something like that up eithter.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 01:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tim tomlinson on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,  It'll be my turn next! Then you can help me.  Tim</p>
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                    <title>Chuck on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you are correct.  I was confused.  30 US or Army for the 30-40.  30-06 or 30-06 Gov.  30-03 or 30-03 Gov. </p>
<p>I'm glad you are watching over me..</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 16:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>tim tomlinson on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,  I am not Brad, but the header for each says "30 Government Rimless".  They date such as to earliest ones having to be the .30 Gov 03.  Last could be the 30 Gov 06 EXCEPT for the notation of the shipment of model 03 cartridges that Brad listed.  So, not the .30 Army or .30 Gov or .30-40.  Tim</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Brad, are these records for the 30-40?</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 15:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>kevindpm61 on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I thought that it was interesting to see that the last page listed one that was delivered to a hardware store in my home town of Lancaster, PA.  I've never heard of the F. Winter Hardware Co.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 14:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>TXGunNut on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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<p><strong>steve004 said </strong><br />
Wow - great stuff.  The shipment of these .30 Govt. rifles - I assume these were Govt 06 vs. Govt 03?<br />
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<p>Steve-</p>
<p>Based on the ship dates and Brad's post I believe the ledger describes 03 rifles but I haven't had my coffee yet.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>steve004 on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow - great stuff.  The shipment of these .30 Govt. rifles - I assume these were Govt 06 vs. Govt 03?</p>
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                    <title>Brad Dunbar on Okay not a Winchester, but a fine Savage 1899 is a close second…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Good looking Savage Ian.</p>
<p>I found some information that would seem to verify these records existed when we were working on the Model 1895 book.  Winchester provided the quantities, dates and destinations for .30-03 M-1895s shipped from the warehouse and the New York dept. from August 1904 through December 1906, and the same for 152,920 .30-03 cartridges, to the government during the congressional investigation into the 1906 Brownsville Affray/Affair/Incident. </p>
<p>Jesi Bennett was attempting to match them up to the warehouse ledger entries.  Feel free to contact her about submitting her results as an article for the magazine <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" /></p>
<p>These are shown on pages 322-323 of the Model 1895 book.</p>
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