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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester Model 12 16 ga</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Chuck on Winchester Model 12 16 ga</title>
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<p>Chuck said<br />
Nice shotgun.  My Dad gave me my first gun in 1960, a Model 12 in 16 ga. made in 1930.  Wish I still had it.<br />
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<p>Chuck,<br />
I just saw this.  In 1960, I was 16 years old. If I had been given my choice of (a) a 16 gauge Model 12; or (b) a romantic weekend with a Hollywood starlet of my selection......<br />
Of course I'd have opted for the weekend but it would have been only after a considerable period of struggle. <br />
Your Dad deserved an A+ in Enlightened Fatherhood. <br />
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<p>I was just 10.  Girls were not on top of my list then.  Actually they were number 2 at best even when I got a little older.  Having fun with my friends was 1st until I got married. I had one friend that would disappear completely when he got a new girlfriend.  He's on his 3rd or 4th wife. </p>
<p>My Dad's priorities were always, hunting, drinking and women.  He never let drinking or women get in the way of hunting.  He would never drink before or during hunting.  But, when I got to where I could navigate a car he would make me drive so he could drink his beer on the way home. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Winchester Model 12 16 ga</title>
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<p><strong>Chuck said </strong><br />
Nice shotgun.  My Dad gave me my first gun in 1960, a Model 12 in 16 ga. made in 1930.  Wish I still had it.<br />
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<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I just saw this.  In 1960, I was 16 years old. If I had been given my choice of (a) a 16 gauge Model 12; or (b) a romantic weekend with a Hollywood starlet of my selection......</p>
<p>Of course I'd have opted for the weekend but it would have been only after a considerable period of struggle. </p>
<p>Your Dad deserved an A+ in Enlightened Fatherhood. </p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Ben on A vehicle to go with your Winchester</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p><span class="font-semibold">“Oh, the humanity!”</span></p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 03:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on A vehicle to go with your Winchester</title>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 02:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>mrcvs on A vehicle to go with your Winchester</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Big Red, eat your heart out!🤣</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 02:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>KyleS on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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<p><strong>Steven Gabrielli said </strong><br />
I’m sure he meant 670, that sn I’m guessing is 1966, I believe they started the 670 at 100000. It was discontinued in the late 70s.<br />
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<p>yes, You are correct I meant to 670. Thank you everyone for the information.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 01:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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<p><strong>Zebulon said </strong><br />
Buck,  the OP describes his father's .270 as a Model 670, not a Model 70. If that is not a typo -- and he's described the number twice -- it cannot have been made in 1949. <br />
Kyle, could you please verify that the Model number of your Dad's .270 is "670" or "70"?<br />
Thanks<br />
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<p>Good catch Zeb! Apologies for my mistake there and appreciate the assist!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2026 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve. I remember the 670 well because it is so much better looking than the 1964 - 1967 Model 70.</p>
<p>For its perceived faults, the post-63 action is much stiffer than its predecessor and the blind magazine of the 670 improves on that benefit. The 670's short barrel of moderate taper provides additional stiffness. </p>
<p>I never owned one but the similar 1966 Remington 600 carbine chambered in 6mm Rem was a $99 education in a box. </p>
<p>The graduate course was a 1966 Model 70 .243 I got much later in 2002, as a result of too much good Scotch while surfing Gunbroker. It was marginally less ugly than the 1964 version, like the other fat girl who didn't sweat as much. It would shoot subminute groups to the point of boredom. </p>
<p>I have been told my 1980 Model 70 XTR Magnum 375 H&#038;H will also shoot tiny groups, if I work up the right loads. Somehow I haven't found time to do that.</p>
<p>TxGunNut has a neat little 670, a 30/06, set into a cherry red laminated (Boyd, I think)  stock. He's fettled the inletting until the gun shoots very well indeed. </p>
<p>While impractical accuracy is the current manufacturer's rage in major caliber big game rifles,  anyone [most of us] who collect and shoot  pre-64 Winchester game rifles know that target competition accuracy was not a first concern of WRACO (or Savage or Marlin or even Remington) for their <strong><em>hunting </em></strong>rrifles. Despite the advertising hoopla about their target competition line. </p>
<p>Although Remington loyalists would cut their tongues out before admitting it, the late Merle ("Mike") H. Walker's motivation for his brilliantly accurate Model 721/722 action design was to keep Dupont from shutting Remington down. He had to design a rifle that could be made in quantity at a profit, using cheaper materials and less skilled labor and machine time. That his basic design still rules benchrest and long range target competition today, was a happy byproduct. </p>
<p>That is not to disparage Walker's skills or his fame as one of the leading lights of the sport of benchrest. I expect his expertise in building and using benchrest guns informed his 721 design, at least subconsciously. But what he most wanted at the time was to keep Remington and his job afloat</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Steven Gabrielli on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’m sure he meant 670, that sn I’m guessing is 1966, I believe they started the 670 at 100000. It was discontinued in the late 70s.</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Buck,  the OP describes his father's .270 as a Model 670, not a Model 70. If that is not a typo -- and he's described the number twice -- it cannot have been made in 1949. </p>
<p>Kyle, could you please verify that the Model number of your Dad's .270 is "670" or "70"?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 12:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Buck1967 on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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<p><strong>KyleS said </strong><br />
I have a couple of Winchesters that I would like to verify the manufacturing dates and find any other history that I can about them. <br />
1. Winchester 670 in .270 Serial number: 108982<br />
2 Winchester 94 in 30-30 Serial number: 3833369<br />
Any information that anyone is able to find about these would be appreciated. The 670 is my dad's that I inherited, and the 94 is from another family member. <br />
I would have added pictures, but I'm not seeing how to do that here. I am just a guest member. <br />
Thanks!<br />
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<p>Hi Kyle, You can look them up by visiting our resource tab and clicking on when my Winchester was made but the dates are also below for you.  While I love all Winchesters the pre 64’s are considered to be superior and are more prized by collectors. Congrats on 2 great family heirlooms! </p>
<p>‘The 70 was 1949</p>
<p>The 94 was 1973</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 09:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>KyleS on Verifying manufacturing dates</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of Winchesters that I would like to verify the manufacturing dates and find any other history that I can about them. </p>
<p>1. Winchester 670 in .270 Serial number: 108982</p>
<p>2 Winchester 94 in 30-30 Serial number: 3833369</p>
<p>Any information that anyone is able to find about these would be appreciated. The 670 is my dad's that I inherited, and the 94 is from another family member. </p>
<p>I would have added pictures, but I'm not seeing how to do that here. I am just a guest member. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>bStrongTO on model 1894 25-35 WCF</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that information!<br />
Would you think that PGW did that “unprofessional ,distasteful work” back in 70’s on that Winchester?<br />
Most of what is noted on a few others we have about different stocks was bought in the 60-70s in SoCal, marina del Reay, seems it could be PGW as others say they didn’t offer stocks.</p>
<p>We think he really liked FN, Shultz and Larson, and Weatherby’s that has custom engravings from Okinawa as being in the Navy in late 60s.</p>
<p>** edit** Is there a particular edition of this publication? I found a few on eBay, any suggestions of what edition?</p>
<p>You are a treasure chest of information! *****</p>
<p>Thanks <br />
Brian</p>
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					                    <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 06:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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                    <title>Zebulon on Another Savage 1899, about as close to a Winchester 1894 from the era as one can get…</title>
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					                        <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,  Chuck,  but I'm tapped after that EG. I need go clear my head and my bench and get some .300 rounds loaded for the range. </p>
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